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chrisfromusa Oct 4th 2009 4:02 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 
Life isn't roses at all here. I can't wait to leave the country, and by the way, don't make climate the #1 reason for you to move out of the UK. You have better worker's rights, healthcare, and good vacation time to boot. Why throw all that away to live here?

Manc Oct 4th 2009 4:02 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by AmerLisa (Post 7988387)
I don't always know where I want to go a year in advance. I might have some idea....but who knows. Plus things come up, its nice to have the freedom to book time off in shorter time frame. I suppose if you say, well I want two weeks off in July, then you've got it booked. Of course when July rolls around and you don't have a vacation booked, you just enjoy those two weeks off at home. :)

:confused:

I never booked my holidays a year in advance in the UK.

elfman Oct 4th 2009 4:05 pm

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Originally Posted by AmerLisa (Post 7988387)
I don't always know where I want to go a year in advance. I might have some idea....but who knows. Plus things come up, its nice to have the freedom to book time off in shorter time frame. I suppose if you say, well I want two weeks off in July, then you've got it booked. Of course when July rolls around and you don't have a vacation booked, you just enjoy those two weeks off at home. :)

Having to book your time off a year in advance? WTF are you talking about?

Mummy in the foothills Oct 4th 2009 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by Manc (Post 7988412)
:confused:

I never booked my holidays a year in advance in the UK.

Me neither, we always did the cheapy last minute deals for holidays in UK.
I agree no worry about medical in UK and much better paid vacation time off. Dh worked 18 years in the boat business (Amazing what he'd do so he can race about on boats that cost more than our house, but he loved boats), all vacation had to be taken when the shop closed for Christmas an new year, so we never had a summer holiday in 18 years :( and as the years went by they reduced his medical cover, due to rising costs, till he had to leave and go work somewhere else just for the medical cover and retirement, so now he's on year 5 of mind numbing boredom.

juliecalifornia Oct 4th 2009 5:14 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 
I'm a newbie here, but thought I'd put in my 2 cents.......I was brought up abroad as a kiddie and ended up back in the UK to do higher & further education and hated living there as it seemed so expensive and depressing than other countries. Then finally got my dream to move to the states and lived in Northern Cal for 7 years and realized the states is not all it's cracked up to be. Even moving to PA isn't great, but it beats N Cal!!!

Every country has it's ups & downs. US is definitely cheaper to live and a better standard of living than the UK, but it doesn't have the culture or history. It doesn't have free healthcare, workers rights and a lot of things are more complicated.....taxes etc. But, we have cheap flights, cheap housing, cheap cars. It's all a trade off as far as I'm concerned.

I guess the grass is always greener. Just keep the Cadbury's choccie coming ... can't beat a good old whinge with a fellow Brit though!

Elvira Oct 4th 2009 5:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Mummy in the foothills (Post 7988512)
......... as the years went by they reduced his medical cover, due to rising costs, till he had to leave and go work somewhere else just for the medical cover and retirement, so now he's on year 5 of mind numbing boredom.

I know a woman who spent years mucking out stalls at the veterinary schools' animal pens just so the family would have health care cover...

This is an intelligent woman without any formal qualifications, who could potentially have pursued any number of professional avenues, but since her husband ran his own small business, she did what she had to do.

In the end the university took pity on her and transferred her to a mind-numbing desk job.

Land of opportunity or what... :unsure:

Manc Oct 4th 2009 5:15 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by juliecalifornia (Post 7988566)
It doesn't have free healthcare

neither does the UK.


Yours Pedantically.

juliecalifornia Oct 4th 2009 5:25 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 
I beg to differ. I know the UK taxes allegedly cover UK "free" healthcare, but you have to compare it to the ridiculously expensive US healthcare and insurance here.

Overall I pay the same taxes & deductions from my salary here that I paid in the UK, but here I pay out of pocket for healthcare (even with good insurance) and back in the UK all I would have paid is for prescriptions. Here, I am also concerned that any prescriptions written and procedures ordered are because my doctor is being a back-hander by the drug companies and hospitals.

Manc Oct 4th 2009 5:30 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 
differ all you want.

but generally when I "pay for" something, then I regard it as "not free"

britvic Oct 4th 2009 5:41 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 7988217)
total bollocks.

:rofl:

Sally Redux Oct 4th 2009 5:56 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 7988412)
:confused:

I never booked my holidays a year in advance in the UK.


Originally Posted by elfman (Post 7988420)
Having to book your time off a year in advance? WTF are you talking about?

That has to be the most bizarre justification ever for shorter vacation time :confused::confused:

Elvira Oct 4th 2009 5:59 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by juliecalifornia (Post 7988566)
.......US is definitely cheaper to live and a better standard of living than the UK.........!

YMMV, of course, but as a generalisation I would dispute this.

Unless you're just talking about accumulating tons of WalMart crap and the like, and living in a large house made of sticks but benefiting from a 2-car garage.

Sally Redux Oct 4th 2009 6:09 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by Elvira (Post 7988667)
YMMV, of course, but as a generalisation I would dispute this.

Unless you're just talking about accumulating tons of WalMart crap and the like, and living in a large house made of sticks but benefiting from a 2-car garage.

I would, too, but I live in one of the most expensive parts.

StaryandStripey Oct 4th 2009 6:18 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 
Well....I'm always up for a challenge!

I've had it all, lost it all, been homeless, and started again from nothing, so I don't think there's much that the US can throw at me that will cause any great damage (except healthcare costs).

I AM prepared (mentally) for an eventual move to the US. Plenty of homework and research will be done so that I can 'integrate' successfully in my community :blink:

Anyway, it's an adventure, and I've had plenty of those!

AmerLisa Oct 4th 2009 6:18 pm

Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 7988412)
:confused:

I never booked my holidays a year in advance in the UK.


Originally Posted by elfman (Post 7988420)
Having to book your time off a year in advance? WTF are you talking about?

Both my mil and my husband's aunt have and have done it for years. My husband's aunt works for Tescos, she was not allowed to take time off for our wedding, 10 years ago because it wasn't already booked. My mil is a nurse, her holidays have to be booked a year in advance, it has been that way since I've known her, 12 years now.


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