US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Nov 14th 2006, 4:04 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Hiro11
I have no clue about how other countries handle this.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:08 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Sally
It would be a bit late for that if you were arrested on suspicion of terrorism.
The USA can be a very aggressive country - as has been shown by interventions eg Chile, Cuba
The USA can be a very aggressive country - as has been shown by interventions eg Chile, Cuba
Nov 14th 2006, 4:11 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Aggressive yes. I would associate the term 'a very oppressive regime' with N Korea or Iraq during Saddam's rule. I certainly don't fear for my life everytime I step outside....well apart from driving on the NJ freeways.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:20 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
I would hardly say the US is 'a very oppressive regime'. After all...if you don't like it...don't come here.
)As for "don't come (or get out) if you don't like it", I am sure you realise it's not as easy as that - especially for those with family here, and those who would have to fear for their safety if they were to go back.
Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:27 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Elvira
I'm sure WASPs and similar have very little to be concerned about. I expect people of Middle Eastern origin feel differently (special registration anyone? )
As for "don't come (or get out) if you don't like it", I am sure you realise it's not as easy as that - especially for those with family here, and those who would have to fear for their safety if they were to go back.
Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
)As for "don't come (or get out) if you don't like it", I am sure you realise it's not as easy as that - especially for those with family here, and those who would have to fear for their safety if they were to go back.
Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:36 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Sally
People may feel safe because of their ethnic group - but what if, for example, a new British government turned against the US...
Nov 14th 2006, 4:37 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I'll suddenly aquire a bad accent...
Nov 14th 2006, 4:45 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Elvira
............Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the guise of Patriotism"
A more accurate statement today might be:
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be due to Paranoia"
Mind you, both factors helped lead to the Nazi government in Germany. Most there saw no problems with their regime at the time.......
Nov 14th 2006, 4:48 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by gardnma
Once heard the statement:
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the guise of Patriotism"
A more accurate statement today might be:
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be due to Paranoia"
Mind you, both factors helped lead to the Nazi government in Germany. Most there saw no problems with their regime at the time.......
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be in the guise of Patriotism"
A more accurate statement today might be:
"If Fascism ever comes to America, it will be due to Paranoia"
Mind you, both factors helped lead to the Nazi government in Germany. Most there saw no problems with their regime at the time.......
Nov 14th 2006, 4:48 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by gardnma
Most there saw no problems with their regime at the time.......
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:51 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by anabella
The government keeps telling its people that they live in the "land of freedom" so the average American knows only what they have heard/been told..
The reality is that they live in a very oppressive regime.. but how would they know this if they have nothing to compare it to.. everything is so biased and so controlled by the media
The reality is that they live in a very oppressive regime.. but how would they know this if they have nothing to compare it to.. everything is so biased and so controlled by the media
Nov 14th 2006, 4:52 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Nov 14th 2006, 4:53 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Elvira
I'm sure WASPs and similar have very little to be concerned about. I expect people of Middle Eastern origin feel differently (special registration anyone? )
As for "don't come (or get out) if you don't like it", I am sure you realise it's not as easy as that - especially for those with family here, and those who would have to fear for their safety if they were to go back.
Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
)As for "don't come (or get out) if you don't like it", I am sure you realise it's not as easy as that - especially for those with family here, and those who would have to fear for their safety if they were to go back.
Let's face it, the US has changed dramatically in the past 5 years. It scares me, where they seem to be heading.
Nov 14th 2006, 4:53 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
Nov 14th 2006, 5:00 am
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by gardnma
Mind you, both factors helped lead to the Nazi government in Germany. Most there saw no problems with their regime at the time.......
