US Healthcare impressions
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you kidding why is antibiotic resistance going through the roof then? its because of inappropriate usage or over usage. having friends as GPs in england they admit to using it when maybe they shouldnt. I've seen billboards in england saying dont use antibiotic for cold they wouldnt bother putting it on a billboard if it didnt happen in the first place!
I'm just saying that it probably isn't as a major problem as you imagine, being prescribed for a cold.
#33
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What, 2/3's? Sure, technically that's right...but that doesn't mean all profits from those non-profits going to the hospital or the community, but just being paid as bonuses to the owners so that the balance sheets show no profilt.
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you kidding why is antibiotic resistance going through the roof then? its because of inappropriate usage or over usage. having friends as GPs in england they admit to using it when maybe they shouldnt. I've seen billboards in england saying dont use antibiotic for cold they wouldnt bother putting it on a billboard if it didnt happen in the first place!
This NIH paper seems to suggest I may be right:
Recent public health efforts, including in the UK and US, have targeted decreasing unnecessary antibiotic use. In the US, prescribing for acute non-specific respiratory infections (ARIs) has decreased, but broad-spectrum antibacterial prescribing has soared.
UK antibacterial prescribing for ARIs has declined, similar to US trends, but there was no concomitant increase in low broad-spectrum prescribing. The success of UK strategies for limiting antimicrobial use has implications for programmes in other countries.
#36
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I can always tell it's February vacation. All my doctor friends start posting photos on Facebook of them with their families in the Caribbean or Hawaii...
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I miss the NHS. It's always served me well.
#38
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According to the actuarial consulting firm Towers Perrin, medical malpractice tort costs were $30.4 billion in 2007, the last year for which data are available. We have a more than a $2 trillion health care system. That puts litigation costs and malpractice insurance at 1 to 1.5 percent of total medical costs. That’s a rounding error. Liability isn’t even the tail on the cost dog. It’s the hair on the end of the tail.
Source: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...th-care-costs/
Misleading to say the system takes care of the cost in the UK. The NHS litigation bill is about to break through the billion pound barrier and rising rapidly every year. Who pays for that? The system with ultimate reduction in resources. Of course they factor that cost in the damages. The US has state medical boards who are just the same with re: to negligence.
What do u expect the doctor to do then? Work as a charity? Their costs are extremely high with 6 figure bills just for litigation insurance. Even in england the NHS is being dismantled so this idea that system can be brought here is nonsense also. Having spoken to doctors they want less litigation less red tape and less patient expectation. However you cant expect stellar everything without someone having to foot the cost.
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Completely wrong the boards are here are much stricter than in England. Your 'blue moon' is so inaccurate. Go to any state med board site and see the reams of pages of doctors facing censure for billing errors, negligence insurance fraud etc May at least make you better informed
Which professional is going to campaign for something that is going to reduced their renumeration and increase their workload? Would you do that? Thats what you are asking them to do. That is socialist medicine. Its only the Brits that pine for the NHS, ask most Americans they wouldnt touch it with a bargepole. The NHS also has significant areas that dont work.
Again it is only the expats I notice that are expecting American doctors to do all these 'socialist' things. Most my American friends dont have the same issues.
I know a few expat British docs here. Initially they would adopt the NHS wait and watch approach. However a few lawsuits put paid to that so the bill for the over investigation falls on the patient. Cant have your cake springs to mind. Americans dont want waiting lists and old techniques so for that privilege it costs $.
Main point dont blame the doctor. Ones I seen more dedicated and work longer hours than the equivalents in the UK.
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actually it was the NHS information centre. I hope they are reliable
Completely wrong the boards are here are much stricter than in England. Your 'blue moon' is so inaccurate. Go to any state med board site and see the reams of pages of doctors facing censure for billing errors, negligence insurance fraud etc May at least make you better informed
Which professional is going to campaign for something that is going to reduced their renumeration and increase their workload? Would you do that? Thats what you are asking them to do. That is socialist medicine. Its only the Brits that pine for the NHS, ask most Americans they wouldnt touch it with a bargepole. The NHS also has significant areas that dont work.
Again it is only the expats I notice that are expecting American doctors to do all these 'socialist' things. Most my American friends dont have the same issues.
I know a few expat British docs here. Initially they would adopt the NHS wait and watch approach. However a few lawsuits put paid to that so the bill for the over investigation falls on the patient. Cant have your cake springs to mind. Americans dont want waiting lists and old techniques so for that privilege it costs $.
Main point dont blame the doctor. Ones I seen more dedicated and work longer hours than the equivalents in the UK.
Completely wrong the boards are here are much stricter than in England. Your 'blue moon' is so inaccurate. Go to any state med board site and see the reams of pages of doctors facing censure for billing errors, negligence insurance fraud etc May at least make you better informed
Which professional is going to campaign for something that is going to reduced their renumeration and increase their workload? Would you do that? Thats what you are asking them to do. That is socialist medicine. Its only the Brits that pine for the NHS, ask most Americans they wouldnt touch it with a bargepole. The NHS also has significant areas that dont work.
Again it is only the expats I notice that are expecting American doctors to do all these 'socialist' things. Most my American friends dont have the same issues.
I know a few expat British docs here. Initially they would adopt the NHS wait and watch approach. However a few lawsuits put paid to that so the bill for the over investigation falls on the patient. Cant have your cake springs to mind. Americans dont want waiting lists and old techniques so for that privilege it costs $.
Main point dont blame the doctor. Ones I seen more dedicated and work longer hours than the equivalents in the UK.
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Which professional is going to campaign for something that is going to reduced their renumeration and increase their workload? Would you do that? Thats what you are asking them to do. That is socialist medicine. Its only the Brits that pine for the NHS, ask most Americans they wouldnt touch it with a bargepole. The NHS also has significant areas that dont work.