Jerseygirl

Exile to the Youth Club Forum...or

fatbrit

Youth Club -- s/he might make friends with someone from another country or culture. It'll be good for them.

Sally Redux

Good idea.

dogloverus

You talk as if it is not being done already

Bob

Given that the qualifications don't directly transfer and a level of retraining is required to get certified in the US, that's probably not true anymore, especially given cost of visas.

Salary of a GP in the UK also isn't shit either.

Bob

You talking like a idiot? We've all already made that conclusion, you keep hammering it home with each post.

chriswinter

First of all why would you find it LOL (laughable) when someone is diagnosed with cancer and a good doc offered his services...exams, tests and surgery expertise without charge? Rude, much?!
Secondly....what are you?....the bloody Inquisition?!

ukphys

All doctors have to do the USMLE regardless of where they qualified even US grads so it is even footing. even US citizens have to do it. All doctors have to do residency also. The qualifications transfer as long as you done the USMLE.

Re: visa the H1-B for residencies is cap exempt. Depends on the program who will pay for it though.

Am going through the process so have a fair idea.

HarryTheSpider

I think I'm done with this particular member.

As for the primary thread topic - I believe it's an important and relevant one for all thinking about moving to the US - or back to the UK, so let's keep it going.

I understand (I could be wrong) that for some, if not many/all GPs, the money they receive from the government is not just to cover their salaries, but also the salaries of the practice staff etc etc... in which case the charge of GPs in the UK being well off and milking the system rings perhaps a little hollow...

(a) is this true
(b) if it is, how might this affect the level & standard of care given in the UK, and
(c) how does this compare with the typical US situation?

chriswinter

O! What crap! I'm now 65 yrs old and evidently you know jack-sh*t about Medicare in America. Medicare does not kick in until you are 65 yrs old. The only way you can get Medicare earlier is being disabled....of which, thankfully, I am not! And NO...I have no desire to go back to the UK to get which should be available/affordable to ALL people in America, no matter their age or employment status....Healthcare. And of course a system (Medicare) that I will fully utilize, that I contributed to, since it's inception in 1967.

ukphys

I spent 4 months doing short GP rotation in a practice in the UK. Income is a complicated thing. You get salaried GPs and partners. They say partners make more but they have to pay staff costs.

A salaried GP average pay £65k which aint brilliant consider the years of training. Certainly pay for docs in the US is more.

GPs in the UK work damn hard ones I saw would start at 7am and not leave till gone 8pm. Not the impression the press give but what do they know? No idea how it affected care but ones I saw were dedicated.

Bob

Aye, the point being, someone who has been a doctor in a NHS hospital for years, or even a GP for years can't just come to the US and be qualified based on just their UK training and experience alone.

Jerseygirl

The trolls have left the room.

fatbrit

And may gawd have mercy on their souls.

Sue

Amen