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Old May 6th 2005, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Because I've paid years of income tax and national insurance?

I would be extremely annoyed if the NHS refused to treat me
I have paid years of all sorts of insurance.

I stop paying and I am not covered anymore.

Besides which, are you referrring to the £20 per month that you paid?

Deduct the pension bit from the last NHI contribution you made on your wage slip. Was it £20 left for the medical insurance bit?

That is $40
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by gooner81
I can see your point here, but i can't wait until i move to the US and pay for my healthcare independently.
Hope you've got a lot of cash!
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by gooner81
I can see your point here, but i can't wait until i move to the US and pay for my healthcare independently. .
That was my attitude before I moved here, but when you still pay the american equivilent of national insurance (medicare) but you can't benefit from it, and the insurance system is shite then I changed my mind quickly

Originally Posted by gooner81
Also the technology available and general clenliness is much better in the US one of my best friends who is in his final year studying to be a doctor has worked in both US hospitals and UK ones and he says the US is so much better equipped and well maintained than the UK.
technology available and general cleanliness is generally worse when you look at the USA as a whole, not just a top hospital in San Diego/Boston etc
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:24 am
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Default Re: US Health system, coming back to the UK?

Originally Posted by gooner81
I can see your point here, but i can't wait until i move to the US and pay for my healthcare independently.

How long shall we give him?

6 months before the rude awakening?
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by mrcusa
I have paid years of all sorts of insurance.

I stop paying and I am not covered anymore.

Besides which, are you referrring to the £20 per month that you paid?

Deduct the pension bit from the last NHI contribution you made on your wage slip. Was it £20 left for the medical insurance bit?

That is $40

Don't quite follow - I've never had a pension bit on a payslip
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:26 am
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Default Re: US Health system, coming back to the UK?

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Don't quite follow - I've never had a pension bit on a payslip

Well the NHI deduction on your wageslip is for state pension and health insurance together.

You can calculate the pension bit, so you know how much you are actually paying for the healthcare bit.
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:28 am
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Default Re: US Health system, coming back to the UK?

Originally Posted by mrcusa
How long shall we give him?

6 months before the rude awakening?
My friend was in a chicago hospital for 8 weeks so thats what it was based on i guess it generally comes down to where you live, having also been in a hospital (not for me) in orlando i was pretty impressed with the facilities etc.

I will moving to the DC vacinity and here's hoping there are hospitals are of a high standard.
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by mrcusa
Well the NHI deduction on your wageslip is for state pension and health insurance together.

You can calculate the pension bit, so you know how much you are actually paying for the healthcare bit.
Hmm, just learnt something.

So how do i do that calc?
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:35 am
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Default Re: US Health system, coming back to the UK?

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Hmm, just learnt something.

So how do i do that calc?
Well for 2004 / 2005 the minimum pension payment was £7.15 per week, £371.80 for the year.

I would have to look at the Inland Revenue website to get the increase relative to wage level.

If you just deduct that though, it doesn't leave much for healthcare does it?
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Old May 6th 2005, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by emmals
healthcare is a joke at the moment in the uk.....my 15 month old daughter was ill a couple of months ago and I rung the doctors up....and they told me the doctor could see her 10 days later ....Joke
10 days is pretty good, when the missus was sick, her doctor said come back in 3 months time and they'll see her then, if it's life threatening, go to ER...
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Originally Posted by gooner81
My friend was in a chicago hospital for 8 weeks so thats what it was based on i guess it generally comes down to where you live, having also been in a hospital (not for me) in orlando i was pretty impressed with the facilities etc.

I will moving to the DC vacinity and here's hoping there are hospitals are of a high standard.
I am sure you will find some very nice looking hospitals in DC. as for the standards every hospital has it horror stories. The problem will be can you afford to be a patient in one of them..
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Originally Posted by mrcusa
Well for 2004 / 2005 the minimum pension payment was £7.15 per week, £371.80 for the year.

I would have to look at the Inland Revenue website to get the increase relative to wage level.

If you just deduct that though, it doesn't leave much for healthcare does it?
And don't forget that an element of your Class 1 National Insurance stamp also pays for any unemployment benefit claim you might make.....
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I am sure you will find some very nice looking hospitals in DC. as for the standards every hospital has it horror stories. The problem will be can you afford to be a patient in one of them..
Well hopefully being a professional Accountant will give me good benefits with the job they normally do. Yeah every hosptial has horror stories even those in the UK..... ours are so dirty MRSA the super virus is a big issue over here and you don't here too much about it over the pond. or at least i haven't.
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I am sure you will find some very nice looking hospitals in DC. as for the standards every hospital has it horror stories. The problem will be can you afford to be a patient in one of them..
CNN in every room, and a marble foyer, do not a hospital make. But then if you're equating care with the building, you'll be in for a rude awakening.

You just have to read Rockgurl's posts to know what healthcare is truly like over here.

And to the Brits who diss the NHS, I say pfffft.....

I had better care in S.A. than I've ever had here.
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Originally Posted by gooner81

Also the technology available and general clenliness is much better in the US one of my best friends who is in his final year studying to be a doctor has worked in both US hospitals and UK ones and he says the US is so much better equipped and well maintained than the UK.
depends where you live in both cases...hospital here is utterly shite and just as dirty as back home, even worse than the JR in Oxford...and at the end of the day, I'd rather have someone skilled, and treat me with out worrying about the cost over some shiny marble floored hospital that's more worried that i'll bleed on the floor and insurance papers than to actually care for me.
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