GJB

Full story here;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3375327.stm

Pimpbot

Great, so people who have entered illegally can come get a job no questions asked, but here I am on day 60 something since I applied for my 1 year EAD still not able to work, despite entering through the proper legal channels.

Thanks Mr Bush.

NC Penguin

If you read the BBC article carefully, it is illegals already present in the US AND already working that this law applies to.

Also, the new law only allows the illegals to apply for permanent residence. This doesn't necessarily mean that all will be approved.

What I want to know if what happens to the employers who employ illegals? Will they get punished? If not, this implicitly encourages employers to hire illegals present in the US because there will be no penalties ...




NC Penguin

Manc

yet I abused the visa waiver

Pimpbot

Great, but I'm already present in the U.S. and cannot work because of the slow workings of the already over worked immigration services. If Bush gets his way, I'll be waiting even longer while his new plans further clog up the system.

NC Penguin

Sadly, you are more than likely correct. Existing and new applications for visas and related services for legal residents/immigrant workers will take longer than ever.

Bush has his eyes on the prize (second term of office) and wants the Latino vote (Latinos are the greatest ethnic group in the US after whites. Blacks are third now).





NC Penguin

Lion in Winter

Is that like self-abuse?

Ray

Its a proposal..it ain't law yet..and will be watered down as always if it passes

RoB1833

The more this sort of thing happens, the more incentive it gives people considering entering and working illegally.

bondipom

Just think how much Wal Mart's costs would go up if their sub contractors started employing legal immigrants. The Mid West would be in uproar.

Lion in Winter

Think how much we would all be paying for fruit, vegetables, meat from packing plants, service in restaurants, landscaping services, cleaning services, babysitting and nanny services, laundromats, car mechanics.....the list goes on. Immigration laws are made by people, not handed down on stone tablets. Types of immigration are "criminal" or "legal" until a different government changes the law. More important is the reality of people lives. People need to feed their families, live in a secure place, and pretty much all of us want to improve our lives. Here, we have a desperately poor country living next to the richest in the world. People, especially people who have never had the chance to accumulate the kind of education and skills that enable one to apply for the available visas, will cross. How many of us would not if our children were hungry, unable to go to school, vulnerable to disease, obliged to work at the age of 6 or 7 to help feed the family? I have a four-year-old, and I'm damned sure I would do anything possible if he faced a similar situation. U.S. corporations have actively brought Mexicans here to work for the last 100 years or so, if not more - sometimes legally, sometimes illegally, depending on the laws of the moment. They still do it, and the powers that be are fine with it, obviously. The rest is for show, political footballing, and manipulation of the vote. Bush's "guest worker" program is not new. The railroad to Chicago was built by Mexican "guest workers", for example. This is how the Chicago Mexican community was founded. And it hasn't stopped growing since. Nor will it stop because of intolerant ranting (not accusing OP!). Economics and demographics have the last word.


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Patrick

There is a lot of hypocrasy here, on the one hand people go on about the cheap labour and the work rate of the mexicans and how you should hire them cheaply. On the other people are complaining that the mexicans are stealing american jobs (the economy sucks - any excuse to blame anyone but the government). Make your mind up, you either want to work for $3 an hour or you want someone else to.

Personally I think this is testing the water, if America as one shouts against it he will drop it like a hot potato in an election year. He seems to be going for all the demographics - Seniors with health care reforms, minorities with this, Captains of industry with tax cuts, rednecks with the war in Iraq, dumb blondes with Jessica Lynch, dumb asses with his permi-grin....etc. Like everything else he has done in office it is all smoke and mirrors

Patrick

Pulaski

Well if the Mexicans I see working on road gangs, landscaping, street sweeping, garbage collecting are anything to go by I don't think that we would be paying any more at all. It seems like they have to be hired in threes or fours but only work one at a time, the others rest on their brooms, shovels, rakes, etc and look on!

DaveC

Hey Patrick, you missed a word out on your signature, it makes no sense. Sharpen up man!

Manc

The republicons need to make their mind up

The newly esteemed governor of CA wants to reduce their rights and Dumbya wants to give them more rights.
what's it to be?