UK's attitude to invalidating its passport
I'm a US/UK dual passport holder. I'm applying for a US security clearance and to get this must have my UK passport invalidated. I can keep the passport, but it will be damaged in such a way that it won't be usable. Does anyone know how the UK views this?
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 8642805)
I'm a US/UK dual passport holder. I'm applying for a US security clearance and to get this must have my UK passport invalidated. I can keep the passport, but it will be damaged in such a way that it won't be usable. Does anyone know how the UK views this?
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 8642805)
I'm a US/UK dual passport holder. I'm applying for a US security clearance and to get this must have my UK passport invalidated. I can keep the passport, but it will be damaged in such a way that it won't be usable. Does anyone know how the UK views this?
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by Ja5on
(Post 8642845)
how would the uk know unless you told them? right after it's been damaged, call the passport place and tell them you lost it and you want a new one....
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by Dudette
(Post 8642860)
Why do they need to damage the UK Passport, what kind of clearance are you going for?
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 8642887)
So that I won't be able to use it. I'm not required to renounce UK citizenship, but the holding of the UK passport is a no, no for a clearance
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Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by Dudette
(Post 8642896)
Is it top secret or secret you're going for? Who is doing the clearance screening and interview, what body, like FBI?
I've been around the security clearances and vetting processes of both countries and have never heard of such a thing...just fyi.. Besides all this, and I will sit corrected, intentionally damaging/destroying an official government document tends to be a felony here/an offence of some sort in the UK...of course you do have to be found out...and its rarely charged... |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by SDDep
(Post 8642910)
Good point...but honestly I dont see the feds wanting this....if its a govt contractor wanting it..I'd tell em to get stuffed...
I've been around the security clearances and vetting processes of both countries and have never heard of such a thing...just fyi.. Besides all this, and I will sit corrected, intentionally damaging/destroying an official government document tends to be a felony here/an offence of some sort in the UK...of course you do have to be found out...and its rarely charged... Just make sure you get all the facts before you allow the passport to be destroyed or tampered with. |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 8642805)
I can keep the passport, but it will be damaged in such a way that it won't be usable. Does anyone know how the UK views this?
That said, and as others have noted, unless you tell the UK about it, they won't know. Ian |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Are you sure they don't want you to renounce? They normally do. But, if they just don't want you to use your passport, you can send it back to your nearest Consulate. They will return it to the UK as a "lost/found" and you will need to re-apply whenever you need a British passport again. If you want to keep it, just cut the corner of the front cover off.
Dean |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by British Consul
(Post 8642959)
Are you sure they don't want you to renounce? They normally do. But, if they just don't want you to use your passport, you can send it back to your nearest Consulate. They will return it to the UK as a "lost/found" and you will need to re-apply whenever you need a British passport again. If you want to keep it, just cut the corner of the front cover off.
Dean Good Luck with the clearance:thumbsup: |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by British Consul
(Post 8642959)
Are you sure they don't want you to renounce? They normally do. But, if they just don't want you to use your passport, you can send it back to your nearest Consulate. They will return it to the UK as a "lost/found" and you will need to re-apply whenever you need a British passport again. If you want to keep it, just cut the corner of the front cover off.
Dean Rete |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 8642981)
Dean, always good to see you here and to have your valuable insight. I held the same thought as you re the renouncing of citizenship. To my thinking if you remain a citizen of a country you can get a new passport to replacement the invalidated one. In essence the invalidation is good for only the time it takes for you to apply for a new after being hired. So what is the point in the first place?
Rete It is of course farcical, nothing new there when dealing with Gov's |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by British Consul
(Post 8642959)
Are you sure they don't want you to renounce? They normally do. But, if they just don't want you to use your passport, you can send it back to your nearest Consulate. They will return it to the UK as a "lost/found" and you will need to re-apply whenever you need a British passport again. If you want to keep it, just cut the corner of the front cover off.
Dean |
Re: UK's attitude to invalidating it's passport
Originally Posted by nun
(Post 8643181)
They just don't want me to exercise my UK citizenship in order for me to get the secret clearance.
As for dual citizenship, the US will (or, at least, should) deal with you only as a USC... so it makes no sense that they want to mutilate your passport - as that makes no difference whatsoever to your citizenship. Ian |
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