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Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
I would like to appoligise for my first comment ,I have just looked at it again and it does sounf offensive and your right uneccessary,so I appolgise.It came out wrong,I hope the above explains my view better.
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Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
I would like to appoligise for my first comment ,I have just looked at it again and it does sounf offensive and your right uneccessary,so I appolgise.It came out wrong,I hope the above explains my view better.
It does indeed. And it is even more offensive than whatever you may have said before . Ah - the irony of a would-be immigrant bitching about immigrants! |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Ok,well instead of being sarcy,why don't you tell me what you find offensive about it exactly?
Oh and why is it the minute someone says something that bears some resemblance to the truth,that everyone gets pissed off? |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
Ok,well instead of being sarcy,why don't you tell me what you find offensive about it exactly?
Oh and why is it the minute someone says something that bears some resemblance to the truth,that everyone gets pissed off? I can't be arsed, quite frankly. As far as I'm concerned, you have outstayed your welcome here. |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Okay,well I was just trying to be grown-up about it,if you cant then wont discuss it any further.At least I wasn't getting personal towards you...
I never said anything towards you...I'll leave it that way |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
Ok,well instead of being sarcy,why don't you tell me what you find offensive about it exactly?
==================== "I was not being racist... "in the uk, they let immigrants in by the truckload, give them housing and jobs... "once there here and they bring over all their illeagal family who (some of whome disrispect and drain the country)... "and about 6.7% of that are "other" ethnic groups... "in some schools in birmingham they are making hindu the second language? I mean hello... "certain areas of manchester are "non english" ares where the locals are not welcome... "moving in, bringing 20 people and TRYING to turn it into their country, enforce their languages and religions..." ==================== So, while you are certainly entitled to your opinion - and this may indeed represent "some resemblance to the truth" - can you see how these comments would lead someone to believe that you don't much care for immigrants? Well, I guess that's as much as I'm going to say on this. History is replete with examples of one group of people focussing their attention on another group of people who are "different", and who then become the scapegoat for all the ills in the first group's society. Ian |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Putting aside all the rest of the paranoid, Daily Mail/Daily Express rantings against those durty forriners coming over here and stealing our jobs/houses/benefits/women... it would be pretty difficult to make "hindu" the second language in a school, given that "hindu" is not a language.
Sorry, I know I'm new here, I should keep my mouth shut, but... yup, I found all that pretty offensive. Not to mention pretty rich that someone asking for advice on how to immigrate herself would go into a stereotypical rant against immigrants. Let's hope, when you do make it into the US, that you're not judged by those standards, eh, OP? I *will* shut up now, and stop drinking wine, and go to bed. |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS CAREFULLY AS NOT TO BE OFFENDED!THANKS
I agree,everyone individually has their own reason,I was not suggesting that "assylum seekers" are theiving from the system. English people are just as much to blame for the state of our own frail economy but because of all of the people forcing their way in (not just assylum seekers) they have made it difficult for EVERYONE,not each case is looked with the individuality it deserves,we have allbeen put into a "giant strict sorting trey "when some of us have no intention of entering illegally,draining the economy and or taking the jobs of the natives. I do actually know 3 families who are friends of mine,they all entered illegally and I guess in that situation they have no choice,but they got a house,benifits and (maybe not a colour T.v)but A LOT of help.I just find hypocritical that The UK lets so many of it's own fall through the saftey net and live on the streets and in jepordy but houses so many who are running away from theri own country , I was not being racist far from it,but our country is small and there are too many houses/cars and people as it is. America on the other hand is enourmous,France is enourmous (i lived there) and I just wish they would set up better supprt systems in places where there is room and also maybe some of the richer countries with room to spare should put there hand in their pockets... I dont even know why I brought it up coz it was only going to start an argument,I was in fact waiting for it.but lets be honest guys,there are just over 60 milions people in great britain and about 6.7% of that are "other" ethnic groups. If you think how small our island is,how much of the country is crowded and poluted and that in some schools in birmingham they are making hindu the second language? I mean hello?Alarm bells are not ringing with anyone,certain areas of manchester are "non english" ares where the locals are not welcome.I do not agree with this in any country.The English did this to India last centuary so I guess you could call it "payback time". I think as long as the country can support others and has the space then EVERYONE should be allowed to go ANYWHERE in the world.The thing I disagree with is moving in,bringing 2o people and TRYING to turn it into their country,enforce their languages and religions.We have in the UK one of the biggest mosques in europe...That did not come from the natives! So maybe I sound racist,but if you read what I say carefully,you'll see that it's not,coulor and race have NOTHING to do with it,attidude DOES. I lived in france for 10 years,learnt the language,blended in,obeyed the laws and respected the country.I dont' see many people doing that in the UK ,it's too small too have that many peolple try to change it,it's not what I remember England being anymore,it's a sad place and this another reason I want to leave. GO where you want,live where you want but respect it and what it is and it's culture and peolple!That is ALL I was trying to say,sorry if I ofended you at all! This is JUST my opinion |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by featherB
Not to mention pretty rich that someone asking for advice on how to immigrate herself would go into a stereotypical rant against immigrants. Let's hope, when you do make it into the US, that you're not judged by those standards, eh, OP?
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Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
OK,you still don't get what I am trying to say,I think I express myself badly.But I DID write that post as a WHOLE,just quoting bits of anyones posts can be seen as offensive,if you read the bit about,anyone should be able to live anywhere...
Anyway,if you DO read it all,you will see that my problem is not with "immigrants" or any race in particular in fact I also mentioned how the English aremto blame. I have a problem with Peoples attitide and wanting to change things about other peoples already small and fragile cultures.There is no point me repeating myself.I WAS NOT tryong to be offensive and if you knew me better you would know that,but you dont so never mind. as for me being ignorant,most of what I say is based on my experience perception and yes opinion just like yours.I will respect yours. I appologise for getting "hindu" wrong,I realise it's actually Urdu/hindi.Should have read up better on that! |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
At the expense of incurring the wrath of others on here, I think I understand what you are trying to say Miffylou. And I can agree with it. I have no problems with people immigrating legally, and learning the language and culture of their new country - respecting the new country. It's when people enter illegally, or expect handouts (beyond what's reasonable), or try to turn certain sections of a country/city/county (whatever) into an imitation of where they left and expect the natives to give way and/or change the laws, that I get a bit bent out of shape. I feel that if I'm going to move/immigrate to another country, then I will try very hard to learn the language and the culture and try to integrate as much as I can.
If that comes across as offensive, well I won't apologize as we're all allowed to have our own opinions, no? As to the original topic of this thread, Miffy, just by you asking if you could do what you are proposing, constitutes the INTENT to circumvent the immigration laws, and thus, is technically illegal. Now, can you do what you asked about - technically yes..but not without potential repercussions. If you did, then when you apply for your Permanent Residence, if USCIS deems that you did intentionally enter the US to marry and remain, they can deny your Permanent Residence and deport you - you would have no way to appeal the decision as you waive the right when you enter under the Visa Waiver Program. It is a much smarter thing to choose the K1 or K3 route. By the way, did you say that you were planning on the bigger wedding next October? In what country were you planning on getting married? Here or in the UK? If the UK, and you plan on doing the K1, then it becomes a bit more complicated, since you absolutely must get married in the US. I won't go into the complicated details in this thread as it really isn't part of what you're asking here. Ciao, Jamie |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
Coz I called the us embassy here and they said that I COULD do that on the VWP
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Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by sunflwrgrl13
Ciao,
Jamie |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Originally Posted by Miffylou
I think I express myself badly.
... if you read the bit about, anyone should be able to live anywhere... There are three possibilities here... 1) You fully believe what you wrote; 2) you believe what you wrote - but only to a certain point; 3) you don't believe at all what you wrote - and you only wrote it to make us think that this is what you believe. I actually don't think it's #1 or #3. I think it's #2 - you believe that "EVERYONE should be allowed to go ANYWHERE in the world"... but only if they don't crowd you! Ian |
Re: UK girl, US guy, how to make the process as quick as possible?!
Poor old Miffy ... Lets cool it a bit ... Whereabout are you intending
heading ..Statewise ... |
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