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Old Nov 28th 2010, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by chartreuse
I've seen a few reports of that happening, but didn't think to keep the URLs, so I can't source them.

There might be something on the ACLU site: http://www.aclu.org/passengers-stories-recent-travel/
Hardly a teabagger website, eh?

Interesting, some flyers report going through the scanner and then still being pulled aside for fingering.
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Hardly a teabagger website, eh?

Interesting, some flyers report going through the scanner and then still being pulled aside for fingering.
Yes, that is interesting.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Yes, that is interesting.
I honestly can't fathom one woman ordering another woman to remove her sanitary napkin. Absolutely unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by Leslie66
I honestly can't fathom one woman ordering another woman to remove her sanitary napkin. Absolutely unbelievable.
By designating it as a 'foreign object' she presumably felt it was justified...unfortunately the kind of behaviour being described has been seen often in studies where one group is given power over another.
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By designating it as a 'foreign object' she presumably felt it was justified...unfortunately the kind of behaviour being described has been seen often in studies where one group is given power over another.
Of course. And I know the internet "rule" about bringing up Nazism but the parallels are blatant and, in this particular case, it is completely appropriate to mention them.
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Originally Posted by Leslie66
Of course. And I know the internet "rule" about bringing up Nazism but the parallels are blatant and, in this particular case, it is completely appropriate to mention them.
The Germans have a good phrase for those who happily go along with this kind of thing: Begeisterte Mifahrer.
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
The Germans have a good phrase for those who happily go along with this kind of thing: Begeisterte Mifahrer.
What is the literal translation?
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Hardly a teabagger website, eh?
Quite. As somebody pointed out earlier, this is not a left/right thing.
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Originally Posted by Leslie66
What is the literal translation?
The literal translation would be something like "Enthusiastic passengers" - pretty apt in this context....
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Originally Posted by Lissbovavd
The literal translation would be something like "Enthusiastic passengers" - pretty apt in this context....
Yes that's right, it's kind of hard to translate exactly, it has the sense of wide-eyed happy fools along for the ride.
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Originally Posted by chartreuse
Quite. As somebody pointed out earlier, this is not a left/right thing.
A very true and apt observation indeed.

There are some liberal democrats who seem to be defending the new and invasive TSA regulations, as well as quite a few conservative Tea Party followers who are equally condemning of the same rules.

It would seem that the views on this contentious subject are highly divisive and quite unpredictable from a party political point of view.
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Originally Posted by Lissbovavd
The literal translation would be something like "Enthusiastic passengers" - pretty apt in this context....
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Yes that's right, it's kind of hard to translate exactly, it has the sense of wide-eyed happy fools along for the ride.
Cheers.

Yeah, seems apropos.
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Originally Posted by Lissbovavd
A very true and apt observation indeed.

There are some liberal democrats who seem to be defending the new and invasive TSA regulations, as well as quite a few conservative Tea Party followers who are equally condemning of the same rules.

It would seem that the views on this contentious subject are highly divisive and quite unpredictable from a party political point of view.
I think it's along the lines of, "I don't like you so you must always be wrong. Even when you're right."

Much like aspects of this thread.
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Originally Posted by Leslie66
Cheers.

Yeah, seems apropos.
It was specifically used for people who went along with the Nazis by not being against them, if that makes sense, but is still used now.
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Standing in line to get through security, all those people packed into a small area, always struck me as being a really good target.

If you look at the totality of the terrorist threat, and just give a quick thought about how you would allocate resources to combat it, how it is being done makes very little sense.
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