mdyoung

So how much is touch up paint going for now days. LOL

Thydney

Touch up? Ford is doing it for nothing.

kelbelinoz

wow you guys love a good debate, just dropping in from oz looking for intelligent conversation.......

My viewpoint, unless you have ever been in a situation where you feel that low do not pass judgement on those who use and abuse substances.....anyone fortunate enough to have such a perfect life should use their strengths to help those less fortunate......no slag them off!!!

been there, done that, got the t shirt, not heavy shit, but dabbled with recreational substances just the same. Not proud or ashamed. I am an intelligent young woman, married with two children and have turnt my life around. It hasn't always been that way....maybe I could have said "no" but maybe I felt so s**t about myself I wanted to feel the escapism.......obviously those with perfect lives don't know how that feels!

I feel like a more balanced well adjusted individual and richer and more compassionate for my experiences. It is a great learning curve when you see it from both sides of the fence.

ps, have you ever lost someone very close to you? Have you suffered any neglect, or abuse, or bullying, or poverty? a loss so painful it cripples you, physical or mental?

Oh, and as for Karma, believe, what goes around, comes around.......you harvest what you plant......

cpltony

Where is the applause icon?
kelbelinoz.....thank you.

Tracym

Applause from me as well. Great post!

MsElui

good post = but i dont believe that you have to give in to the bad stuff to know how it feels like to feel that low. some people are able to feel that crap and still realise that drugs etc are not going to make it better. They are the people i really admire.

Tracym

No, hopefully one doesn't give in. But if you're already mentally ill, your ability to make good choices can be impaired.

Also, I bet there's a lot of people who say "Oh, that was a really rough day - I an really use that beer". And that can be the path to destruction to some people.

It's just not a simple thing - but generally, someone who is completely well to begin with does not decide it would be a good idea to start smoking crack.

But many many people try drugs in their youth. Kids are stoooopid, yes - but most manage - some become hooked.

lapin_windstar

I agree to an extent, no-one sets out to smoke crack all the time and become addicted. But as I understand it (not necessarily perfectly), there are a large number of people that use crack not exactly recreationally, but without becoming fully addicted, in the same way that people quite often go on all-day benders without being (every day using) alcoholics.

Tracym

Sure, some folks can manage it. I think the odds are worse than for drinking alcohol though - it is much more addictive.

lapin_windstar

Ooh, no, I agree entirely.

kelbelinoz

I admire them too......thanks for the appreciation of my post, just want to say it from someone who knows. I knew drugs wouldn't help, I just wanted out of reality for a bit, lucky for those that don't know how bad that can be. Very easy to get pulled into that life......I believe I was strong to walk away, turn my life around, and now have the ability and insight to help others. I've never smoked crack, only cannabis, had pills and amphetamines, sometimes daily.......,maybe these arent classed the same, but damaging none the less. I guess I still had the strength to say no to the stronger stuff as these were always readily available.......depends on your own mindset, and what you've been through.

Like I say, do not judge!!
..... I believe that drink can often be worse, as it's so readily available. People abuse themselves on a regular basis with that, and for them theres no shame in going into the supermarket and filling their trolley, or to order from internet and have it delivered to the house! They don't all sit on street corners with brown paper bags you know!! I also know people with high powered jobs that abuse coke and alcohol.....you'd never know it to look at them.......

Alcoholics drain the system of resources too as there are so many drink related illnesses, I don't see them getting a hard time! Like I say, we should look at society with an open mind and not judge!

anyway, how did TAX REBATE CHEQUES end up like this!? Hilarious........I was going to say that I have a fat rebate of over 2000 GBP waiting for me to spend when I go home!!!! NO I won't be spending it on drugs!!! Just putting it towards redecorating my new house!!

Tarkak9

So I hear Bush is to sign the Economic Stimulus Bill on Wednesday -
people have already started to line up for their cheques....

cpltony

LOL

I can make out my mother in law, 4th one in line.