Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
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Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I've lived in the USA for ten years now and in all that time I've not received any income from the UK (and Will not until I hit retirement)
And yet, every year I open up tax calc to submit my taxes, and every year I feel like I'm walking through a minefield of reporting my US income, my residency, domicile, etc. The sheer number of questions around this are overwhelming, and then I often do something wrong (Entering current country of residency in a DTA box etc.
Is there any way I can show that I do not need to file taxes, is there a step by step guide for people in my position, or even examples of what I should fill in and what I should ignore.
Any help is appreciated, yet again I'm tearing my hair out trying to fix all the taxcalc red flags on what I want to submit!
And yet, every year I open up tax calc to submit my taxes, and every year I feel like I'm walking through a minefield of reporting my US income, my residency, domicile, etc. The sheer number of questions around this are overwhelming, and then I often do something wrong (Entering current country of residency in a DTA box etc.
Is there any way I can show that I do not need to file taxes, is there a step by step guide for people in my position, or even examples of what I should fill in and what I should ignore.
Any help is appreciated, yet again I'm tearing my hair out trying to fix all the taxcalc red flags on what I want to submit!
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I've lived in the USA for ten years now and in all that time I've not received any income from the UK (and Will not until I hit retirement)
And yet, every year I open up tax calc to submit my taxes, and every year I feel like I'm walking through a minefield of reporting my US income, my residency, domicile, etc. The sheer number of questions around this are overwhelming, and then I often do something wrong (Entering current country of residency in a DTA box etc.
Is there any way I can show that I do not need to file taxes, is there a step by step guide for people in my position, or even examples of what I should fill in and what I should ignore.
Any help is appreciated, yet again I'm tearing my hair out trying to fix all the taxcalc red flags on what I want to submit!
And yet, every year I open up tax calc to submit my taxes, and every year I feel like I'm walking through a minefield of reporting my US income, my residency, domicile, etc. The sheer number of questions around this are overwhelming, and then I often do something wrong (Entering current country of residency in a DTA box etc.
Is there any way I can show that I do not need to file taxes, is there a step by step guide for people in my position, or even examples of what I should fill in and what I should ignore.
Any help is appreciated, yet again I'm tearing my hair out trying to fix all the taxcalc red flags on what I want to submit!
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
^^This^^ I put my P85 in the mail on the way to the airport on the day I left. The only time HMRC contacted me since was to give me a refund in income tax paid in the year.
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I filed p85 the paperwork when I left the UK but I still receive a self assessment notification, is there a clear way to remove myself from this process?
Last edited by oli4uk; Jan 25th 2021 at 3:50 pm.
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
Persistence. Write, phone, email. Send them a copy of the paperwork you filed. Keep at them until it's fixed.
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I'll give the email a shot!
Unfortunately ten years has passed since I submitted my p85, I had a copy at one point but I have no idea where it is, if I still have it!
Unfortunately ten years has passed since I submitted my p85, I had a copy at one point but I have no idea where it is, if I still have it!
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I had UK rental income so thought I had to submit UK taxes. One year I had a question on the tax return and called them about it. They told me that because my UK income was less than the personal allowance I should stop submitting UK taxes and contact them if it ever increased above the personal limit. So I just stopped and I have never heard from them again. So, maybe you just stop submitting them?
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I missed the filing deadline once by a few days and ended up with a £100 fine, so would rather avoid trying that until I have something in writing :P
#10
Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
Wow, that is a bit harsh especially if you don't owe any taxes. Maybe try this link, it is a current live link to HRMC for non residents.
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/short...rm/CNR_GEN_SEF
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/short...rm/CNR_GEN_SEF
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
Wow, that is a bit harsh especially if you don't owe any taxes. Maybe try this link, it is a current live link to HRMC for non residents.
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/short...rm/CNR_GEN_SEF
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/short...rm/CNR_GEN_SEF
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I had UK rental income so thought I had to submit UK taxes. One year I had a question on the tax return and called them about it. They told me that because my UK income was less than the personal allowance I should stop submitting UK taxes and contact them if it ever increased above the personal limit. So I just stopped and I have never heard from them again. So, maybe you just stop submitting them?
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I have a different feel. I left for the US and didn't fill a p85, if they want any tax off my US income, the UK can suck eggs.
Also, the peace of mind a CPA gives me is endless.
Also, the peace of mind a CPA gives me is endless.
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I p85'ed and got a small refund. As for the CPA it was the opposite for me - I found myself combing over everything and found a couple issues, so ended up filing myself again.
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Re: Tax Time Woes, I have to be doing this wrong.
I should clarify, my tax situation is now extremely complicated. I require a CPA and an international tax attorney, not for bad reasons, the situation is just very complicated. If I had to do myself, I would never sleep.