Tax Advice, Filling status - Head of household vs Married
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Tax Advice, Filling status - Head of household vs Married
Hello Folks,
I'll soon be working in California (first time working in the states), intra-company transfer on L-1A. Our SF office has sent me gazillions of forms to complete and a good few of those are related to tax e.g. W-9, W-4, DE 4 etc etc etc - the list is ridiculous tbh
I am aware that my wife can work on L-2 permitting an approved EAD (I’ll be on L-1A) but she has no intention to go back to work anytime soon – not at least in 2013/mid 2014. Considering that, should I complete the filling status as "Head of household" or should I be selecting “Married with single income”?
Hope above makes sense, and thanks in advance for your guidance.
I'll soon be working in California (first time working in the states), intra-company transfer on L-1A. Our SF office has sent me gazillions of forms to complete and a good few of those are related to tax e.g. W-9, W-4, DE 4 etc etc etc - the list is ridiculous tbh
I am aware that my wife can work on L-2 permitting an approved EAD (I’ll be on L-1A) but she has no intention to go back to work anytime soon – not at least in 2013/mid 2014. Considering that, should I complete the filling status as "Head of household" or should I be selecting “Married with single income”?
Hope above makes sense, and thanks in advance for your guidance.
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If you're doing an actual tax return, you can still file "married filing jointly", even if your spouse isn't working. It gives you a bigger tax break.
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As this is a company transfer, you really should have gotten them to pay to get your taxes done for the first and last year in the US as part of the relocation package...
If you're doing it yourself though, do as Ian suggests and play around with the numbers to see which gives you the best return, but it is often "married filing jointly", but that really can change depending on personal circumstances.
If you're doing it yourself though, do as Ian suggests and play around with the numbers to see which gives you the best return, but it is often "married filing jointly", but that really can change depending on personal circumstances.
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As this is a company transfer, you really should have gotten them to pay to get your taxes done for the first and last year in the US as part of the relocation package...
If you're doing it yourself though, do as Ian suggests and play around with the numbers to see which gives you the best return, but it is often "married filing jointly", but that really can change depending on personal circumstances.
If you're doing it yourself though, do as Ian suggests and play around with the numbers to see which gives you the best return, but it is often "married filing jointly", but that really can change depending on personal circumstances.
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Ditto to the post above me. You CANNOT file a tax return as Head Of Household while married unless you live apart from your spouse for the last six months of the year and have a qualifying dependent. If you are married and live with your spouse your only filing options are Married Filing Jointly or Married Filing Separately.
For the W4 and DE4, if you are married with a single income and there are no unusual factors I'd just follow the instructions on the form, which would give you one allowance for yourself and one for your wife (and one each for any child).
For the W4 and DE4, if you are married with a single income and there are no unusual factors I'd just follow the instructions on the form, which would give you one allowance for yourself and one for your wife (and one each for any child).
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Re: Tax Advice, Filling status - Head of household vs Married
Many thanks all for your advice and feedback.
For the W4 & DE4, 'married filing jointly' is the most appropriate option for me.
For the W4 & DE4, 'married filing jointly' is the most appropriate option for me.
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There is no such category. There is a category 'Married filing separately', but that's something very different.
It won't help answer you question, but to illustrate why one should be careful to correctly call things what they are, I am married and I have an income but my wife does not have an income. We file 'Married filing jointly', because it saves us a bundle of money as compared to me filing 'Married filing separately'. On the other hand, if we both had incomes, there are situations where we would save money if we each filed 'Married filing separately'.
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EDIT: Ah, you're talking about the W-4 Employee's Withholding Allowance Certificate, not the tax return? But on W-4 the choices are "Single", "Married", or "Married, but withhold at the higher Single rate". New admonishment - if you want to get good information you have to give good information.
Regards, JEff
It won't help answer you question, but to illustrate why one should be careful to correctly call things what they are, I am married and I have an income but my wife does not have an income. We file 'Married filing jointly', because it saves us a bundle of money as compared to me filing 'Married filing separately'. On the other hand, if we both had incomes, there are situations where we would save money if we each filed 'Married filing separately'.
Regards, JEff
EDIT: Ah, you're talking about the W-4 Employee's Withholding Allowance Certificate, not the tax return? But on W-4 the choices are "Single", "Married", or "Married, but withhold at the higher Single rate". New admonishment - if you want to get good information you have to give good information.
Regards, JEff
Last edited by jeffreyhy; Feb 6th 2013 at 8:11 pm.
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Yep no taxes to do until 2014, but the W-4 (and DE-4 for CA) needs to be filed so your company has an idea of how much tax to take out of your paycheck. As you are marriedyou cannot file as "Head of Household".
I'll give the usual warning to the OP to make sure he/she understands the US tax implications of any UK investments and penions they own, and that they have taken active steps to organize or sell them prior to moving to the US.
I'll give the usual warning to the OP to make sure he/she understands the US tax implications of any UK investments and penions they own, and that they have taken active steps to organize or sell them prior to moving to the US.
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Yep no taxes to do until 2014, but the W-4 (and DE-4 for CA) needs to be filed so your company has an idea of how much tax to take out of your paycheck. As you are marriedyou cannot file as "Head of Household".
I'll give the usual warning to the OP to make sure he/she understands the US tax implications of any UK investments and penions they own, and that they have taken active steps to organize or sell them prior to moving to the US.
I'll give the usual warning to the OP to make sure he/she understands the US tax implications of any UK investments and penions they own, and that they have taken active steps to organize or sell them prior to moving to the US.
When I got out of sync with my withholdings due to unearned income, bonuses, or exercised stock options, I just changed my W-4 to have additional money taken out instead of filing a quarterly estimate and then later changed it back.
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If you claim over a certain threshold of allowances then it does go to the IRS. And the IRS can question whether you are justified - you've signed the form under penalty of perjury - the number you are claiming. Happened to me one year including a phone call from the IRS at my workplace.
Yep, I tend to have an additional dollar amount withheld at the end of the year for this purpose. The nice thing is that taxes paid through withholding are deemed to have been spread across the year, so you don't have to worry about having paid enough tax quarterly to avoid penalties.
Yep, I tend to have an additional dollar amount withheld at the end of the year for this purpose. The nice thing is that taxes paid through withholding are deemed to have been spread across the year, so you don't have to worry about having paid enough tax quarterly to avoid penalties.
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If you claim over a certain threshold of allowances then it does go to the IRS. And the IRS can question whether you are justified - you've signed the form under penalty of perjury - the number you are claiming. Happened to me one year including a phone call from the IRS at my workplace.
Yep, I tend to have an additional dollar amount withheld at the end of the year for this purpose. The nice thing is that taxes paid through withholding are deemed to have been spread across the year, so you don't have to worry about having paid enough tax quarterly to avoid penalties.