taking a car home from Florida
Dec 25th 2014, 2:26 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
The Range Rover is hugely popular and there are not that many competitors so I thought the ford Explorer, Acadia, Terrain etc would be a good alternative. No real comparison in quality (although I thought my Explorer was great) but based on price I think the Fords and GMCs would sell in the millions.
For me it is all about aesthetics and a 5 litre mustang would be the last one I would buy, I would be much more content with a 2.0 ecoboost or a diesel since the fuel is so expensive there and like here, you cant go very fast on the roads. What is the point of all that muscle when none of us can legally drive anywhere near the engines capabilities!
If they kept the exports to the Range Rover size or smaller and made them all diesel I am pretty sure they would do well.
I noticed when I was back there in summer, a Ford Ranger pick up and there were loads of them! There is a big market for business owners that can buy these pick ups and have them 100% tax deductible (same as a van) - again, a lucrative open market for all the pick up makers in the states.
For me it is all about aesthetics and a 5 litre mustang would be the last one I would buy, I would be much more content with a 2.0 ecoboost or a diesel since the fuel is so expensive there and like here, you cant go very fast on the roads. What is the point of all that muscle when none of us can legally drive anywhere near the engines capabilities!
If they kept the exports to the Range Rover size or smaller and made them all diesel I am pretty sure they would do well.
I noticed when I was back there in summer, a Ford Ranger pick up and there were loads of them! There is a big market for business owners that can buy these pick ups and have them 100% tax deductible (same as a van) - again, a lucrative open market for all the pick up makers in the states.
Dec 25th 2014, 2:37 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
Hey Pulaski
Not seen any caddys in Edinburgh but look forward to it lol.
Plenty of Chrysler and I think Dodge so if they can do it why cant the others. I agree that they could be shooting themselves in the foot if they bring them over and undercut themselves but they could just price them inline with all the others. Just because they sell a basic explorer over here for $30k doesn't meant they need to sell it over there for £20k. They could whack it up to £50k and still be around have the price of a Range Rover.
Pretty sure it would be worth changing them to RHD and making them all diesels and compliant with the European regs.
I used to like seeing the 300 and Crossfire on the streets of Edinburgh and look forward to seeing the Mustangs in September.
Not seen any caddys in Edinburgh but look forward to it lol.
Plenty of Chrysler and I think Dodge so if they can do it why cant the others. I agree that they could be shooting themselves in the foot if they bring them over and undercut themselves but they could just price them inline with all the others. Just because they sell a basic explorer over here for $30k doesn't meant they need to sell it over there for £20k. They could whack it up to £50k and still be around have the price of a Range Rover.
Pretty sure it would be worth changing them to RHD and making them all diesels and compliant with the European regs.
I used to like seeing the 300 and Crossfire on the streets of Edinburgh and look forward to seeing the Mustangs in September.
Dec 25th 2014, 8:04 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
No it's not, you must have missed where I pointed out my relative doing it. In fact he did it twice.
Yes they are, their franchise agreement may say otherwise but it depends on the make. Ford definitely will do it. GM won't, Chrysler won't for Canadians but I'm not sure about generally speaking.
There's no law against it though.
Have a read of this: Canadian car buyers blocked from cheaper U.S. prices - Business - CBC News
As it says, Ford, Kia and Nissan will do it.
Well Jaguar and Range Rover is just one company, like I said, it depends on the franchise agreement.
Well it used to until it started getting enormous flak from Canada, so back in 2009 when Canadians were going berserk there was some movement on it, because until then a lot of manufacturers were making cars with slight differences to make them more awkward to export from the US, so they caved on that point, since 2009 the difference between Canadian and US-spec vehicles is basically just the speedometer and odometer.
Yeah that's Chrysler though. I'm here to tell you my relative bought a new Jeep Cherokee and exported it to the UK, but they are awkward about doing it.
The usual trick is to put it out as a loaner and put some mileage on it and then sell it as "used".
But anyway it's not a general rule was my point, depends on the make.
Yes they are, their franchise agreement may say otherwise but it depends on the make. Ford definitely will do it. GM won't, Chrysler won't for Canadians but I'm not sure about generally speaking.
There's no law against it though.
Have a read of this: Canadian car buyers blocked from cheaper U.S. prices - Business - CBC News
As it says, Ford, Kia and Nissan will do it.
Well Jaguar and Range Rover is just one company, like I said, it depends on the franchise agreement.
Well it used to until it started getting enormous flak from Canada, so back in 2009 when Canadians were going berserk there was some movement on it, because until then a lot of manufacturers were making cars with slight differences to make them more awkward to export from the US, so they caved on that point, since 2009 the difference between Canadian and US-spec vehicles is basically just the speedometer and odometer.
Yeah that's Chrysler though. I'm here to tell you my relative bought a new Jeep Cherokee and exported it to the UK, but they are awkward about doing it.
The usual trick is to put it out as a loaner and put some mileage on it and then sell it as "used".
But anyway it's not a general rule was my point, depends on the make.
Dec 26th 2014, 1:49 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
I remember Top Gear (or was it Fifth Gear?) did a review of the Cadillac and totally slammed it as a complete POS!!
Same thing with the Chrysler 300 on Fifth Gear. Vicki Double-Barreled-Pretentious- Whatever was led to it blindfolded and said it was American cr@p just from the ride alone!
Same thing with the Chrysler 300 on Fifth Gear. Vicki Double-Barreled-Pretentious- Whatever was led to it blindfolded and said it was American cr@p just from the ride alone!
Dec 26th 2014, 6:29 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
New grey import Range Rovers sell for the equivalent of $200k+ in China - so more like $50k in one of those.
Dec 26th 2014, 6:49 pm
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For some, it would be worth the effort - shipping a car is relatively cheap - either by container or RoRo. I think you could net $10k per vehicle if you pushed all the buttons in the correct order.
New grey import Range Rovers sell for the equivalent of $200k+ in China - so more like $50k in one of those.
New grey import Range Rovers sell for the equivalent of $200k+ in China - so more like $50k in one of those.
Dec 26th 2014, 6:59 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
If you guys were taking a car back to the UK for profit what would it be?
Best classic?
Best nearly new?
Best classic?
Best nearly new?
Dec 26th 2014, 7:36 pm
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Classic, something more highly valued in the UK than the US, such an MG, Austin Healy, or TR4/5/6. .... So long as it had been kept in the South East or South West, and (therefore) wasn't badly rusted.
Dec 26th 2014, 7:49 pm
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So long as it was before all the smog controls and the bad rubber bumpers in the 70s too.
Dec 26th 2014, 11:07 pm
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This car would fetch a lot of money in the Mopar community in UK. For sale in Orlando FL right now - the guy who restored it has worked on several of my cars and knows what he's doing.
Dec 27th 2014, 2:21 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
Dec 27th 2014, 5:46 pm
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You're aware that luxury cars imported to China attract 25% duty plus 25% consumption tax, and then 17% VAT, aren't you? I don't doubt that it might be possible to turn a profit importing an almost new Range Rover from the US to China, but I don't see $50,000 of profit in it.
Dec 27th 2014, 7:19 pm
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Re: taking a car home from Florida
Dec 30th 2014, 10:53 pm
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Fair enough. Ford Corporate is one of may largest clients. Their tacit policy to their dealer network is a requirement not to sell US inventory for export. Particularly so now - a gen 5, 5.0GT Mustang is around $35k here - it's going to be around GBP40k in the UK.
I'm sure the franchise agreements change fairly often, I know Subaru USA used to allow exports to Canada but stopped last year because of demand.
