Sudden relocation to NY.....
 

Hello all

I am hoping that someone can help with a very unexpected but welcome offer. I can expand much further if someone replies to our call for help !

In brief:

A work relocation to New York. Relocating in July.

Probably looking to move to Queens (Astoria or Forest Hills). But not confirmed as we are travelling in a couple of weeks to NY for a scouting trip.

A 12yr old girl who is (fortunately) academically gifted, she currently attends an English selective Grammar School. She took and passed a hotly contested and over subscribed entrance exam (we are very proud of her).
A 3.5yr old girl who currently attends nursery full-time.

We are very keen for our eldest to maintain her academic leaning so we have looked at the G&T program.
Is she eligible to sit an exam outside of the time frame ?
Does any form of academic achievement outside the US count for anything ?
If the G&T program isn't an option can we simply enrol her at the local school ?
We are more than happy to change the area we live in so our eldest can attend a recognised 'good' school that pushes students academically.

Our youngest has missed enrolling for pre-kindergarden, do we just enrol her for Kindergarden when she is 5 ?

Are there any things that we can do now whilst not in the US to get the ball rolling ?

I appreciate (as having worked in schools in my home country) that there is no such thing as a 'good' school. It depends on a whole multitude of different factors. So please don't think that I am being crass. I hope that this email isn't misunderstood. We are just in a bit of a panic........

I am very keen to send my eldest to a school to the 'equivalent' of an English Grammar School, if such a thing exists !!

Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

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Plenty of threads on places to stay in NYC, so worth searching them out. Including schooling.

Basically where you live determines which school you go to, down to the street, unless it's a private school.

Childcare isn't cheap, but where ever you find a place without a waiting list will take your money for the youngest. Same idea as school for kindergarten, but age of enrolment will depend on school district/state.

Things you can sort out now, look at what vaccinations are needed to get into school and bring vaccination records. Will need hep B I think it is that isn't done in the UK? Anyway, it's a series of jabs and you'll need to have it started before kid can start school.

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First of all, "visas". What sort of visa will you be getting, or don't you need one? (The whole family would have to already be USCs). Assuming you needs visas, I sincerely doubt they can be processed and ready by July. Six-eight months is usual.

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Student F1/J1 aren't to bad...

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If it is a company transfer (L-1 visa), those are usually processed quickly. Since "work relocation" was stated, that is what I assumed.

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Agreed, but "work relocations" are rarely F1/J1s. I would guess this is a job transfer, and therefore most likely an L1 with trailing L2s.

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Many thanks

It is a job from a reputable company that has a presence in many countries.
With the industry I work in I'm pretty sure through past knowledge that
a visa will be ok to get processed. My other half is moving offices
Within a large multi national. There is unlikely to be any delays or problems
with entrance and staying working within the US.

I'm more concerned regarding my child's educational needs than visa's. I'll start investigating NYC's educational website in greater depth. Just seems a veritable mine field !!

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That doesn't make any difference. Since it sounds like it is not a company transfer (minimum requirement that you work for that company for 1 year outside the US to get a L-1 visa), the only option to get a visa early is an E-2 visa (treaty investor visa) but that has the disadvantage of non being dual intent. If your position is at a high executive level, some companies use that visa. The other option is the H1-B visa but those don't allow for work to start before October 1 and have a quota.

Sorry don't know about the schools.

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I don't know if it's different in NY, but here the gifted and talented programme is something that is run within the public school system.

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If you want real info on NYC schools then this is a great site http://insideschools.org/

If your daughter is 12 depending on when her birthday is that will dictate what grade she will go into in September I'm presuming either 7th or 8th grade which is middle school age.

Bronx Science is considered one of the best High Schools in the entire US, to get admitted there are a number of criteria, the first being you have to live within the five boroughs of NY then you have to sit a competitive written examination given in the autumn of each year, known as the Specialized High Schools Admissions Test (SHSAT) Some parents spend vast sums of money training their kids to do will on this test :(

HS's and middle schools in NYC are very hit and miss my suggestion would be go visit a few and get a feel for what you are looking for.

If you want a great school where kids are challenged I would not rule out Bronxville or Scarsdale school districts both have outstanding schools 25 minutes by train from Grand Central. To attend these schools you just have to have a home in the district.

You are not able "to get the ball rolling" until you are actually resident in the US as you need to provide certain information before you are able to register for school, proof of residency, vaccination records and a full physical (medical) by a local Dr within the past 12 months however its good to start dialogue with the schools you are interested in prior to moving.

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notonuksoil

Thank you very much. Awesome post and I will investigate further.
My other half liked the look of Scarsdale initially.

Many many thanks.
Digital kudos being sent across the ether.

Best.

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Your Welcome :)

We have been where you are now when we moved here, we had an academically gifted 5 year old (if thats possible to tell at that age) and an 18 month old. We opted for the burbs rather than NYC as it offered better options for us at the time. They are now in 10th and 6th grade and both doing well. Most schools in the burbs offer the bright kids the option of doing high school courses starting in middle school 8th grade rather than having a G & T program. My eldest did 2 HS courses in 8th grade, Earth Science and Algebra I. They then get the option of doing AP Environmental Science in 9th grade if they get the required scores.

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Actually it sounds as if the OP's other half may be getting an L1 ...
... in which case the OP could get an L2 and once he gets his EAD can work for whoever he likes ...

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Another vote for L1.

OP it is very important you find out.

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OP - Foolish to acknowledge this post but to ignore the others. Spoken from experience.

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tonrob

Not ignoring any other posts, please don't misunderstand me :)

The post form notonuksoil is just more prevalent to us at the moment as we have been assured that the visa's are not an issue.I will look into the different types of visa's today.

Thank you to all postings, you are offering valuable knowledge based on personal experience. Many thanks.

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Tonrob I think is just trying to point out that you may get more posts like notonuksoil's if you provide answers on the visa. The reason being is that you have to understand that there are many posts on here asking about details of moving when the poster involved stands no chance of getting a visa approved. As such, it can be frustrating to provide detailed answers to people to then find they stood no chance of a visa in the first place, so many will not answer questions such as yours in detail until they are assured there is a valid visa option. Please don't misinterpret this as disbelief that you don't have the visas sorted, just that if you provide details of the visa route you may find answers more forthcoming. A little backward perhaps on first thought but if you hang around here a while you'll understand just how many 'pie in the sky' threads there are.

I'm afraid I can't help on any of your issues but welcome to the forum!
:welcome:

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Hey Bink

Many thanks for the insight....... Very informative and now I have a better understanding regarding posts and forums.

Maybe I will just find the time to look at the NY DoE website and make calls after this holiday weekend has passed.

Regarding the visa routes, I'm in the dark to be honest. My other half's company move people across the world regularly and Visa issuing has never been a problem and my new employers live in a world of a specialised skill set and the Visa is (i've been told) is a non issue. I have no idea on what type of Visa it is, only that we will be getting employed on separate Visa's.

I will visit this forum once again when I have all the Visa details and can explain to other posters what type of Visa I have so that people will understand that I am not a 'pie in the sky' person !!!

I do not want to put anyone out and waste anyone's time.

Thanks again Bink and to you other posters. I am being most sincere:)

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The visa may, indeed, not be an issue... but the long-time members of this forum have seen some bad shit happen to good people who trusted the employer and who were similarly assured that the visa wouldn't be an issue.


Ask the employer's lawyer... he'll know. Then do the research. Oh... always keep in mind that the lawyer works for the company - he doesn't work for you.

Ian

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They really should be. They are number one and anything else is pretty irrelevant.

It might not be a concern to the company which route they go, but the direction will affect your futures far more. Some allow you to pursue greencards and in a timely or not manner, some allow spouses to work while others don't. So many different things that'll affect you.

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Have been in contact with the companies lawyers and have emailed them a list of my concerns..........

Many thanks :)