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para22 Feb 11th 2007 3:33 am

St Patricks Day
 
Is it only me, or does it get up anyone else's nose the way the yanks celebrate St Patricks Day.

Dont get me wrong, Ive nothing against the irish.
I did 6 tours over there, and at one time was even engaged to an irish girl.

But what really pisses me off, are the clowns over here, who will tell you they are ' Irish' and they've never even seen the sky over I.

These are the same wallies, who ride around in a truck with a plate on the front announcing 'God made the Irish # 1"

They seem to have some romantic notion about the irish, that they are a downtrodden nation existing in the shadow of the UK;

Or if its not Ireland, they'll tell you the are a fifth Scottish, a fifth Ukranian, one tenth portugese, need I go on?

Any thoughts anyone, or am i out of order?

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 3:37 am

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Originally Posted by para22 (Post 4390093)
Is it only me, or does it get up anyone else's nose the way the yanks celebrate St Patricks Day.

Dont get me wrong, Ive nothing against the irish.
I did 6 tours over there, and at one time was even engaged to an irish girl.

But what really pisses me off, are the clowns over here, who will tell you they are ' Irish' and they've never even seen the sky over I.

These are the same wallies, who ride around in a truck with a plate on the front announcing 'God made the Irish # 1"

They seem to have some romantic notion about the irish, that they are a downtrodden nation existing in the shadow of the UK;

Or if its not Ireland, they'll tell you the are a fifth Scottish, a fifth Ukranian, one tenth portugese, need I go on?

Any thoughts anyone, or am i out of order?

I'm irish and I must say that I'm really looking forward to fielding even more stupid questions than usual over the next 6 weeks :rolleyes:

conisby Feb 11th 2007 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by BigDavyG (Post 4390099)
I'm irish and I must say that I'm really looking forward to fielding even more stupid questions than usual over the next 6 weeks :rolleyes:



Davy, are potatoes widely available in Ireland yet?? :D

NC Penguin Feb 11th 2007 4:02 am

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Originally Posted by para22 (Post 4390093)
Is it only me, or does it get up anyone else's nose the way the yanks celebrate St Patricks Day.

Dont get me wrong, Ive nothing against the irish.
I did 6 tours over there, and at one time was even engaged to an irish girl.

But what really pisses me off, are the clowns over here, who will tell you they are ' Irish' and they've never even seen the sky over I.

These are the same wallies, who ride around in a truck with a plate on the front announcing 'God made the Irish # 1"

They seem to have some romantic notion about the irish, that they are a downtrodden nation existing in the shadow of the UK;

Or if its not Ireland, they'll tell you the are a fifth Scottish, a fifth Ukranian, one tenth portugese, need I go on?

Any thoughts anyone, or am i out of order?

Welcome to the US. Get used to it!:D


NC Penguin

Tegwyn Feb 11th 2007 4:06 am

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Not as big in this part of the world as the locals are not allowed to drink beer. Green milk also looks absolutely disgusting.;)

TruBrit Feb 11th 2007 4:11 am

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yeah para welcome to the usa...get used to them going ott for most occasions...bless :rolleyes:

ScottMc Feb 11th 2007 4:21 am

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Davy, what's the celebrations like in the City? I'll be over by then, worth a trip in from the Suburbs?

Bob Feb 11th 2007 4:22 am

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It's the devil spawn...along with all other holidays...it was pretty big up in maine where we use to live, but then there were a few paddies there at least...

I'm worried about it this year, being this close to beantown...the home of the plastic paddy...or is that chicago? :D

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 4:27 am

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Originally Posted by conisby (Post 4390125)
Davy, are potatoes widely available in Ireland yet?? :D

Yes - we eat them daily with corned beef and cabbage

TouristTrap Feb 11th 2007 4:27 am

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Americans are the best marketers in the world......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

TouristTrap Feb 11th 2007 4:27 am

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Originally Posted by BigDavyG (Post 4390245)
Yes - we eat them daily with corned beef and cabbage

Got a good recipe?

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by ScottMc (Post 4390222)
Davy, what's the celebrations like in the City? I'll be over by then, worth a trip in from the Suburbs?

Actually I've never been downtown for the 'Big Day' so I can't really comment.
I have seen the parade on the TV and it wouldn't really be my cup of tea to be honest. Without wanting to turn this thread into a political debate there seems to be the perception in the US the St Patrick is the patron saint of the Republic of Ireland - not Ireland as a whole - I find this to be somewhat annoying.

Still - as a newbie you should prob check it out - the train will deposit you in the centre of town for $5 so its easy enough to get there. In fact being as you're moving to the 'burbs I recommend heading into the city at every available opportunity - its like a different world.

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 4:34 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390227)
I'm worried about it this year, being this close to beantown...the home of the plastic paddy...or is that chicago? :D

There's a few places fighting it out for that title - I'd say Boston might just shade it though.

Bob Feb 11th 2007 4:44 am

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Originally Posted by BigDavyG (Post 4390272)
There's a few places fighting it out for that title - I'd say Boston might just shade it though.

Aye, it is a weird old game...it can be a musing, but green beer, green milk, green hair, all that cabbage...can be a bit much, and half the munters who are inked up with clovers and the like probably don't even know where Ireland is, let alone the whole issue of the north and republic etc....but it's somin' for hallmark to keep busy after valentines :lol:

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 4:53 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390304)
Aye, it is a weird old game...it can be a musing, but green beer, green milk, green hair, all that cabbage...can be a bit much, and half the munters who are inked up with clovers and the like probably don't even know where Ireland is, let alone the whole issue of the north and republic etc....but it's somin' for hallmark to keep busy after valentines :lol:

Do they do the corned beef thing in Boston too.
I have no idea where the f**k that comes from - all our corned beef back home came in tins from Argentina :confused:

Bob Feb 11th 2007 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by BigDavyG (Post 4390324)
Do they do the corned beef thing in Boston too.
I have no idea where the f**k that comes from - all our corned beef back home came in tins from Argentina :confused:

yeah, they do it around here too...and it was big in maine too....someone explained it was because corned beef and cabbage was cheap and all the immigrants of the time could afford and it just got associated with the Irish...would have thought it would have been spuds if that was the case though, so who knows.

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 5:19 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390353)
yeah, they do it around here too...and it was big in maine too....someone explained it was because corned beef and cabbage was cheap and all the immigrants of the time could afford and it just got associated with the Irish...would have thought it would have been spuds if that was the case though, so who knows.

That makes sense - its an immigrant thing, not an irish thing then - never thought about that

ScottMc Feb 11th 2007 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by BigDavyG (Post 4390265)
Still - as a newbie you should prob check it out - the train will deposit you in the centre of town for $5 so its easy enough to get there. In fact being as you're moving to the 'burbs I recommend heading into the city at every available opportunity - its like a different world.

Yeah defintely plan to get a day in the city at least every other weekend once I get there. The train journey's a little annoying as it's so slow but reading the paper on the way in makes it bearable!

Bob Feb 11th 2007 5:24 am

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Originally Posted by ScottMc (Post 4390384)
Yeah defintely plan to get a day in the city at least every other weekend once I get there. The train journey's a little annoying as it's so slow but reading the paper on the way in makes it bearable!

I had the same plan about beantown....just got to lazy to bother after a visit :lol: ...don't help that it's a tad more pricier using the commuter rail, or tolls and parking make a drive a mare...

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 5:34 am

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Originally Posted by ScottMc (Post 4390384)
Yeah defintely plan to get a day in the city at least every other weekend once I get there. The train journey's a little annoying as it's so slow but reading the paper on the way in makes it bearable!

Depends what line you use and when you go - only takes me 40 minutes to get to work on the express but the 'local' service takes a bit longer.
On the plus side they do allow you to drink on the train so if you're heading in at weekends take a carryout.

ukmumsie Feb 11th 2007 5:39 am

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Originally Posted by para22 (Post 4390093)
Is it only me, or does it get up anyone else's nose the way the yanks celebrate St Patricks Day.

Dont get me wrong, Ive nothing against the irish.
I did 6 tours over there, and at one time was even engaged to an irish girl.

But what really pisses me off, are the clowns over here, who will tell you they are ' Irish' and they've never even seen the sky over I.

These are the same wallies, who ride around in a truck with a plate on the front announcing 'God made the Irish # 1"

They seem to have some romantic notion about the irish, that they are a downtrodden nation existing in the shadow of the UK;

Or if its not Ireland, they'll tell you the are a fifth Scottish, a fifth Ukranian, one tenth portugese, need I go on?

Any thoughts anyone, or am i out of order?

It's a big thing in the schools too. They make decorations and you get pinched if you do not wear green :mad: - everyone assumes I celebrate it as I'm from the UK and it must be a big thing in England:rolleyes: All about commercialism

Paul S Feb 11th 2007 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by Tegwyn (Post 4390182)
Green milk also looks absolutely disgusting.;)


I'd start keeping it in the fridge if i were you:p

What gets me are all the t-shirts in Target proclaiming just how great the irish were. I'd tend to agree but 99.9% of the wearers are from what i can tell not irish at all (dons flameproof undies:rofl: )

Bob Feb 11th 2007 5:53 am

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 4390466)

What gets me are all the t-shirts in Target proclaiming just how great the irish were. I'd tend to agree but 99.9% of the wearers are from what i can tell not itish at all (dons flameproof undies:rofl: )

It's the land of the plastic paddy...everyone is American until they talk about heritage and suddenly there actually Scottish, Irish...but not Welsh :D

Unless you've lived there, been brought up there, born there, or the same for your folks, you really ain't from there....but maybe I'm just not getting it.

gardnma Feb 11th 2007 5:59 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390479)
It's the land of the plastic paddy...everyone is American until they talk about heritage and suddenly there actually Scottish, Irish...but not Welsh :D

Unless you've lived there, been brought up there, born there, or the same for your folks, you really ain't from there....but maybe I'm just not getting it.

Exactly Robert,

"I'm Italian......"
Really? When did you move here then?
"uh, er......well I'm Italian descent......."

Substitute Irish, Scottish, German, Polish........etc

Funny how you never hear "I'm an English American though" ........wonder why:rolleyes:

Paul S Feb 11th 2007 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390479)
It's the land of the plastic paddy...everyone is American until they talk about heritage and suddenly there actually Scottish, Irish...but not Welsh :D

I know what you mean, but i actually met a local last night who was extolling his Welsh heritage:rofl: (I was flippin amazed):eek:

Bob Feb 11th 2007 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 4390536)
I know what you mean, but i actually met a local last night who was extolling his Welsh heritage:rofl: (I was flippin amazed):eek:

gotta be the first....didn't do a sheep joke then? :D

Dogbyte Feb 11th 2007 8:15 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390578)
gotta be the first....didn't do a sheep joke then? :D

No sheep, but he probably married a 'dragon' !!.

choppi Feb 11th 2007 8:47 am

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The people that I used to work with were suprised that we Irish didn't eat corned beef and cabbage back in Ireland. I kept telling them that it's only an Irish American thing. Bob was right when he posted that the Irish immigrants used corned beef instead of bacon when they arrived here, and that's the whole corned beef and cabbage thing started!
The only corned beef I ate once or twice when I lived back in NI was that out of a can and it smelt like cat food :eek:

BigDavyG - did you know that St. Patrick was buried in Downpatrick? I did climb Slemish mountain several times on St. Patrick's day to see where it was claimed that St. Patrick banished all the snakes from Ireland. It was always cold and wet on those days :)

Irn-bru Feb 11th 2007 8:48 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390479)
It's the land of the plastic paddy...everyone is American until they talk about heritage and suddenly there actually Scottish, Irish...but not Welsh :D

Unless you've lived there, been brought up there, born there, or the same for your folks, you really ain't from there....but maybe I'm just not getting it.

also not English, funny that Americans don't want to admit to that ;)
But if I have to listen to one more complete family tree recital I'll go mad :eek: I don't get the "My ancestors are Irish/Scottish" I get the whole nine yards of how far back it goes then at the end the usual "have you heard of them?'
The funny thing is I did actually know one!!!:ohmy:

Paul S Feb 11th 2007 8:57 am

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Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4391078)
The funny thing is I did actually know one!!!:ohmy:

That wasn't Dave in Edinboro was it????????

I've met him:rofl:

Irn-bru Feb 11th 2007 8:59 am

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 4391123)
That wasn't Dave in Edinburgh was it????????

I've met him:rofl:

yeah how did you know :eek: :rofl:

(I edited for you ;))

TruBrit Feb 11th 2007 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 4391123)
That wasn't Dave in Edinboro was it????????

I've met him:rofl:

oh yeah that dave.... i'd forgotten about him...he was in my class at school :rolleyes: :lol:

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by choppi (Post 4391070)
The only corned beef I ate once or twice when I lived back in NI was that out of a can and it smelt like cat food :eek:

BigDavyG - did you know that St. Patrick was buried in Downpatrick? I did climb Slemish mountain several times on St. Patrick's day to see where it was claimed that St. Patrick banished all the snakes from Ireland. It was always cold and wet on those days :)

Hello Choppi

He's meant to be buried in Downpatrick under that big stone but lots of people dispute that.
Slemish always seems to have a big cloud over it, but it is a funny looking mountain, isn't it ??

As for the corned beef I thought it wasn't bad with a salad - nice with salad cream :thumbup:

choppi Feb 11th 2007 9:28 am

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Me mum used to make sandwiches for me da and mix brown sauce (ie. HP Sauce) with it!!

BigDavyG Feb 11th 2007 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by choppi (Post 4391231)
Me mum used to make sandwiches for me da and mix brown sauce (ie. HP Sauce) with it!!

Was going to mention that too - I never liked it but I know lots of people who did.

tonrob Feb 11th 2007 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by gardnma (Post 4390491)
Exactly Robert,

"I'm Italian......"
Really? When did you move here then?
"uh, er......well I'm Italian descent......."

Substitute Irish, Scottish, German, Polish........etc

Funny how you never hear "I'm an English American though" ........wonder why:rolleyes:

That's great - I must start asking that question whenever some Yank comes out with this type of line! :D


My wife's German - (I mean really German!) - and when people find out they usually say, "Oh - so does she speak any German then?". Still haven't come up with a smart answer to this one...

tonrob Feb 11th 2007 11:09 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 4390227)
It's the devil spawn...along with all other holidays...it was pretty big up in maine where we use to live, but then there were a few paddies there at least...

I'm worried about it this year, being this close to beantown...the home of the plastic paddy...or is that chicago? :D

I've been rubbing shoulders with the 'plastic paddys' in plastic paddy pubs the last couple of weekends - places which I usually avoid at all costs (because of the plastic bit, not the Irish bit) - in order to watch Wales in the Six nations. Was actually surprised at how many genuine Irish there were in attendance... Even a couple of Welsh (plus Yanks in Welsh shirts!!!)

And before anyone starts - yes, Wales have been extraordinarily shite so far...

Tegwyn Feb 11th 2007 12:06 pm

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My DH hails from Glasgow and still has the "accent" which usually triggers the family tree discussion. I've got to say that I am enormously impressed with just how active the Scots were in going forth and multiplying so many Americans.:lol: No wonder they all looked so tired.;)

Bob Feb 11th 2007 3:16 pm

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Originally Posted by tonrob (Post 4391525)

And before anyone starts - yes, Wales have been extraordinarily shite so far...

:D

I've been d/loading them and watching the England games at work and doing my best to not hear the results till after I've seen the England game, so I'm none the wiser, but it was a cracking opening week :D

Boylerz Feb 11th 2007 9:22 pm

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Well I am off to New York for Paddy's week to meet 7 of my Irish friends who coming in for it. I for one can't wait. Paddy's day is always better away for Ireland for some reason and I reckon NYC is the best city in the world to be in for the day.


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