SSN Queries
#1
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SSN Queries
Hi I would just like a bit of clarification on how long it take roughly to get one upon arrival? All the posts I've read haven't really made it any clearer. I'm sure I did read somewhere within 10 days we did request to receive them via the DS-260 am I right in thinking that this slows the process down? And it's quicker just to go the local office?
Will this effect sorting out rental property and bank account. I know my wife can't start work without it.
Thanks
Will this effect sorting out rental property and bank account. I know my wife can't start work without it.
Thanks
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Re: SSN Queries
Hi I would just like a bit of clarification on how long it take roughly to get one upon arrival? All the posts I've read haven't really made it any clearer. I'm sure I did read somewhere within 10 days we did request to receive them via the DS-260 am I right in thinking that this slows the process down? And it's quicker just to go the local office?
Will this effect sorting out rental property and bank account. I know my wife can't start work without it.
Thanks
Will this effect sorting out rental property and bank account. I know my wife can't start work without it.
Thanks
Not sure why lack of SSN would prevent someone from starting employment. The I-9 can still be completed and the SSN added later. Bank account without SSN is also possible, and rental property will be affected anyways as you would have no credit score.
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Of course a prospective landlord can't do a credit check but then if you're a new immigrant there won't be anything on the credit report anyway, and you need to find a landlord that understands that. I usually recommend a private landlord, someone who owns the business and who you can actually meet and talk to. Some larger "corporate" landlords and managers of apartments might be willing to work with you, many probably won't. Be prepared to pay addition months of rent in advance.
A SSN or TIN is only required for an interest bearing account. You will need an ID document and a "government issued ID number" - so a passport and passport number will suffice. Unfortunately many bank employees don't understand this and so you might need to ask to speak to a supervisor or manager to get through the process. The requirements for ID and ID# are in the USA PATRIOT Act, and there is no mention of requirement for an SSN, if you need to point that out to the bank staff. :rofl;
You don't need an SSN to start work. It is a common mistaken belief by employers that they can't hire someone who doesn't have an SSN. I started work six days after stepping off the plane, and didn't have an SSN at that time, and I was was working for a major international corporation, not some cash-in-hand casual work.
Last edited by Pulaski; Jul 10th 2015 at 4:01 pm.
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Re: SSN Queries
Thanks for all the info.
I'm actually thinking of using a credit union. For our current account as there seems to be more of them than banks where we're going and we are quite happy using Nationwide here in the UK.
The agency we are using haven't allowed any of there employees to start work without SSN so in some case they have been doing nothing for a month until they get it. Which I'm not really happy about new country and everything else not knowing how expensive settings up camp will cost it would be good for Mrs to start work after 2 weeks tops really and after such a long wait for visa she's really excited to start.
I'm actually thinking of using a credit union. For our current account as there seems to be more of them than banks where we're going and we are quite happy using Nationwide here in the UK.
The agency we are using haven't allowed any of there employees to start work without SSN so in some case they have been doing nothing for a month until they get it. Which I'm not really happy about new country and everything else not knowing how expensive settings up camp will cost it would be good for Mrs to start work after 2 weeks tops really and after such a long wait for visa she's really excited to start.
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Re: SSN Queries
I believe rule #1 is don't go too soon to apply. Wait 7-10 days after entering otherwise a manual query takes place, which delays process considerably. So you're looking at 20 or so days minimum to get your SSN.
Not sure why lack of SSN would prevent someone from starting employment. The I-9 can still be completed and the SSN added later. Bank account without SSN is also possible, and rental property will be affected anyways as you would have no credit score.
Not sure why lack of SSN would prevent someone from starting employment. The I-9 can still be completed and the SSN added later. Bank account without SSN is also possible, and rental property will be affected anyways as you would have no credit score.
Nonsense I applied for my SSN less than 24 hrs after entering the country. No questions asked.
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Re: SSN Queries
Well, I had read something about the system whereby electronic queries are made about status are not immediately available - and then the application "takes the long route" if you apply too early. I stand corrected then.
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I waited the 7 days as recommended by the SS office themselves. It actually ended up being 10days because my 7 day wait put me into the weekend. Was no big deal because we had a few wedding things to review
I had no issue though with opening a bank account I was with Bank of America at the time.
I had no issue though with opening a bank account I was with Bank of America at the time.
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this whole 10 day thing was pre-electronic i94. Now you are basically in the system as soon as you leave the airport so really the whole concept is redundant.
#11
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I went down to the office a couple of days after landing. Got my SSN a week later in the post. Seems like there's no rhyme or reason to it.
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Ok so what's I-94 that's a new one for me I guess it's something that happens at POE.
If we have a transfer in our flight do we hand the pack in there or when we get to final destination.
If we have a transfer in our flight do we hand the pack in there or when we get to final destination.
#13
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I-94 used to be a card you filled out on the plane and handed in at the POE. It's all done electronically now, but you can go online after you arrive in the USA and print out the I-94.
If we have a transfer in our flight do we hand the pack in there or when we get to final destination.
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I-94 was the paper ticket that used to be attached in the passports of visitors to the US, and which was collected on departure to verify that those who "arrived" also "left" again and thereby record when they left. The records are now handled entirely electronically, and although the paper tickets were only discontinued a year or two ago, in practice the arrival and departure records had been handled electronically for many years ..... I had an I-94 that wasn't turned in around 2000, but I was never questioned over an "overstay" (I had never actually overstayed).
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You go through immigration when you first land in the US. It would be wise to allow extra time for any transfer as it can be hard to predict how long your visit to secondary may take.