hogiegirl

My husband and I recently did a DCF in NZ. We returned home on February 10th. Upon arrival he recieved the a stamp on his passport authorizing work as a permanent resident. We recieved his card today in the mail. First of all, his name is spelled wrong, they put Graig istead of Craig. This is second time that this has happened. Thr first was when I filed his initial. I 130 in Vermont. I called when I recieved my NOA and changed the spelling. I really don't understand why they keep mispelling a very common name. The second thing is that on the card it says that is is valid for work only with INS authorization. Why is that? It was my understanding that he would just have a normal card as he is a permanent resident. Can anyone give me any information or advice? Now that he has a number can we go and get his liscence or do we have to wait to get a corrected card? Just when you think things are starting to go in your direction this bologna paper work crap throws you another hurdle!! At least my husband is here, thank goodness after a year wait! I know I shouldn't complain. Thankyou in advance for your help! Have a happy day!

L D Jones

hogiegirl wrote:
    >
    > My husband and I recently did a DCF in NZ. We returned home on February
    > 10th. Upon arrival he recieved the a stamp on his passport authorizing
    > work as a permanent resident. We recieved his card today in the mail.

Are you referring to his greencard here or social security card?

    > First of all, his name is spelled wrong, they put Graig istead of Craig.
    > This is second time that this has happened. Thr first was when I filed
    > his initial. I 130 in Vermont. I called when I recieved my NOA and
    > changed the spelling. I really don't understand why they keep mispelling
    > a very common name. The second thing is that on the card it says that is
    > is valid for work only with INS authorization. Why is that? It was my

If you went to the SSA office and he showed them a passport with the
"I-551" stamp inside he should have received a SS card without that
legend.

    > understanding that he would just have a normal card as he is a permanent
    > resident. Can anyone give me any information or advice? Now that he has
    > a number can we go and get his liscence or do we have to wait to get a
    > corrected card? Just when you think things are starting to go in your
    > direction this bologna paper work crap throws you another hurdle!! At
    > least my husband is here, thank goodness after a year wait! I know I
    > shouldn't complain. Thankyou in advance for your help! Have a happy day!

There have been threads about this here recently. I think you should get
the card replaced but the number won't change so he should be able to
get a license with no problem. His authorization to work is the "I-551
stamp" unitl the actual greencard arrives. The stamp and the SS card he
has ought to satisfy the DMV

Michael D. Young

hogiegirl wrote:

    > My husband and I recently did a DCF in NZ. We returned home on February
    > 10th. Upon arrival he recieved the a stamp on his passport authorizing
    > work as a permanent resident. We recieved his card today in the mail.
    > First of all, his name is spelled wrong, they put Graig istead of Craig.
    > This is second time that this has happened. Thr first was when I filed
    > his initial. I 130 in Vermont. I called when I recieved my NOA and
    > changed the spelling. I really don't understand why they keep mispelling
    > a very common name. The second thing is that on the card it says that is
    > is valid for work only with INS authorization. Why is that? It was my
    > understanding that he would just have a normal card as he is a permanent
    > resident. Can anyone give me any information or advice? Now that he has
    > a number can we go and get his liscence or do we have to wait to get a
    > corrected card? Just when you think things are starting to go in your
    > direction this bologna paper work crap throws you another hurdle!! At
    > least my husband is here, thank goodness after a year wait! I know I
    > shouldn't complain. Thankyou in advance for your help! Have a happy day!

Hi All!

If you are talking about the SSN card having the name misspelled, your
husband can call the SSA 800# and have it replaced without submitting
another application, as long as he does it within 3 months of the card being
issued.

Now if he has the I-551 stamp in his passport, he should have got an
unrestricted SSN card. However, the only why to get an unrestricted SSN
card is to reapply. Make sure the SSA service rep puts a "Y" in the PRA
block at the bottom of the form SS-5.

If he wants to get the name corrected and be issued an unrestricted SSN
card, he might as well go to your local SSA office and submit another SS-5.

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203570

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410


Take care,


Mike

Mrtravel

If SS can matchi him to the INS I-551, if should get the correct card.
However, the spelling problem might be slowing him down. The I-551 stamp is
INS approval to work, so it doesn't matter what the SS card says.

hogiegirl

Thank you for your replies. We went yesterday to the SS office. They had his name correctly in the computer but just mispelled it on the card. He does have his I 551 stamp so we showed that as well. The man at SS said that it would be corrected but it would take a month. Why is it that when these government agencies make a mistake we have to pay by waiting? I didn't realize the inefficency of government agencies until I began this immigration process. At least most people working at these places are kind. So it is my understanding that because he has his number(which will not chnge, we were told) he can apply for his liscence and a job? Thank you again for your responses. It really helps!

Have a happy day!

L D Jones

hogiegirl wrote:
    >
[...]
    > are kind. So it is my understanding that because he has his number(which
    > will not chnge, we were told) he can apply for his liscence and a job?
    > Thank you again for your responses. It really helps!

He should have no trouble getting a license or a job (except that jobs
are hard to find these days). The I-551 represents his ability to work
so I think that can be used if someone questions the legend on the SS
card until he gets a new one

Michael D. Young

hogiegirl wrote:

    > Thank you for your replies. We went yesterday to the SS office. They had
    > his name correctly in the computer but just mispelled it on the card. He
    > does have his I 551 stamp so we showed that as well. The man at SS said
    > that it would be corrected but it would take a month. Why is it that
    > when these government agencies make a mistake we have to pay by waiting?
    > I didn't realize the inefficency of government agencies until I began
    > this immigration process. At least most people working at these places
    > are kind. So it is my understanding that because he has his number(which
    > will not chnge, we were told) he can apply for his liscence and a job?

Hi All!

Not to make excuses, but are you sure the name was written clearly on the
application form. A woman e-mailed last week that she just noticed that
her 17 year old daughter's name was misspelled on her SSN card. Took her 17
years to notice. LOL

Daughter's name was Lindsey Marie for first and middle names. The record
had Linsey Mame. I requested a copy of the application and the mother had
left out the "d" in the first name and ran the "r and i" together in the
middle name so that it looked like an "m".

It's going to take a month, because SSA has to verify his permanent resident
status to issue the unrestricted SSN card. If he had just request the
misspelling be corrected I'm sure he would get the new card within 14 days.

Yes SSA people are kind. Just don't know what kind. LOL


Take care,

Mike

hogiegirl

LOL Mike. Not sure what kind either!!;-)

Well this saga continues...
Today we went to the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles to apply for Craig's learners permit. We found out that he can't get his permit til he has the actual GREEN CARD in his hand. They told us at our POE that it could take up to 8 months for him to recieve that in the mail. Which means that he can't get his liscence for 8 months????????????
What does the I 551 stamp mean then????
Why is this government so uncooperative??
I mean if he has a social security card and he has a stamp in his passport what is the problem?
My husband is a truck driver and cant get his CDL liscence til he has his drivers liscence.
Just when you think that you have made it through one hurdle theres another one waiting ...

Michael D. Young

hogiegirl wrote:

    > LOL Mike. Not sure what kind either!!;-)
    > Well this saga continues...
    > Today we went to the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles to apply
    > for Craig's learners permit. We found out that he can't get his permit
    > til he has the actual GREEN CARD in his hand. They told us at our POE
    > that it could take up to 8 months for him to recieve that in the mail.
    > Which means that he can't get his liscence for 8 months????????????
    > What does the I 551 stamp mean then????
    > Why is this government so uncooperative??
    > I mean if he has a social security card and he has a stamp in his
    > passport what is the problem?
    > My husband is a truck driver and cant get his CDL liscence til he has
    > his drivers liscence.
    > Just when you think that you have made it through one hurdle theres
    > another one waiting ...
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Hi All!


http://www.state.ma.us/rmv/dmanual/dmanual.pdf#Page=154

You must have a valid Social Security number to apply for any permit,
license, or ID, including a replacement or a renewal. If you do not have
a valid Social Security number, you must present a written denial notice,
satisfactory to the Registrar, from the Social Security Administration
(with an acceptable visa code) explaining why you can't obtain a Social
Security number. In addition, you must also show a Social Security Card
or a valid, current U.S. or current non-U.S. Passport.

You must also present three (3) pieces of identification from the
Registry's Primary and Secondary ID lists. At least one (1) of the three
(3) pieces must be from the Primary list. Together, the documents must
establish date of birth, signature, and Massachusetts residency.

You may select the documents you present, provided the combination of
accepted documents establishes the three preceding criteria. If you
produce one document that confirms all three criteria, you must still show
two other documents, but it doesn’t matter which of the three criteria the
other two documents confirm. Photocopies, unless certified or authorized
in the list, are not accepted. The Registrar reserves the right to modify
these lists of documents from time to time.

Primary Documents (P)
1. Current or expired U.S. or non-U.S. passport with photograph and
signature
2. Current or expired Massachusetts Firearms Permit, with photograph,
signature, and date of birth
3. School yearbook with applicant’s photograph
4. Certain U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) documents
and other U.S. Government immigration documents (see the list in the
brochure available at any RMV location)
5. Current or expired U.S. military (or military dependent) ID with
photograph, signature, and date of birth
6. Current or expired U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner card with
photograph, signature, and date of birth
7. Current Massachusetts learner’s permit or ID card
8. Expired Massachusetts driver’s license or ID card (not expired more
than 1 year)
9. Current or expired license (not expired more than 1 year) with
photograph, applicant’s signature, and date of birth that is issued by a
state, territory, or possession of the United States, the District of
Columbia, a province of Canada, or a state of Mexico or the Federal
District of Mexico City (a certified copy is acceptable)
10. Original birth certificate issued in the United States or its
territories or a copy certified by the agency that issued the original
certificate or a copy certified by a Bureau of Vital Statistics or a state
Board of Health within the United States (a hospital issued certificate is
not acceptable)
11. Certified or attested copy of a court order of a federal, state, or
county court within the United States that contains a raised court seal
and includes the applicant’s full name and date of birth (examples include
an adoption document, a name change document, and a gender change
document)
12. Original or certified copy of a baptismal certificate, provided the
original certificate was issued within 1 year of the applicant’s birth by
a church in the United States and contains the applicant’s date of birth
13. Original letter issued by the principal, headmaster, or official
keeper of the records of a Massachusetts school that indicates the
applicant is currently a resident student and that includes the
applicant’s name and date of birth

Secondary Documents (S)
1. Home mortgage, lease, or loan papers with the applicant’s name and
signature
2. Life insurance papers with the applicant’s name, signature, and date of
signing
3. U.S. military discharge papers (DD 214), with the applicant’s date of
birth and signature
4. Notarized copy of a completed income tax return filed with the IRS or a
state revenue department (not more than 1 year old if used to confirm
residence); a W-2 form is not acceptable
5. A bank passbook, bank statement, or checkbook with the applicant’s name
and address that has been open for six months
6. Original or certified copy of a divorce decree
7. Original or certified copy of a marriage certificate
8. Original or certified copy of a non-U.S. birth certificate (if not in
English must be accompanied by an acceptable translation)
9. Current or expired ID (not expired more than 1 year) with photograph
and applicant’s signature, issued by a U.S. agency; the District of
Columbia; a state, a municipality, a territory, or a possession of the
United States; a province of Canada; or a state of Mexico or the Federal
District of Mexico City
10. Bureau of Indian Affairs or Indian Treaty Card (tribal ID is not
acceptable)
11. A utility bill (no more than 60 days old) or a property tax or an
excise tax bill that is for the current or the immediate prior year and
that contains the applicant’s name and address
12. Canceled bank check (copy acceptable if issued as part of a monthly
statement) with signature and preprinted address and dated not more than
60 days earlier
13. Original Massachusetts Department of Correction (DOC) Certificate of
Discharge or Release
14. Current or expired non-U.S. driver’s license with applicant’s
signature (if not in English must be accompanied by an International
Driving Permit or another acceptable translation)
15. Tuition bill or student loan coupons with applicant’s current address

16. Original school transcript with name and address

NOTE: It is not the function of RMV employees to advise you about which
documents to present. No specific type of document on either list is
required or preferred. In following these policies and procedures, RMV
employees apply the same eligibility requirements to all applicants
equally, without regard to race, sex, creed, national origin, or
English-speaking ability.

The issuance of a driver’s license, learner’s permit, or ID card is not a
determination of whether or not a person has legal or illegal immigration
status. That is the responsibility of the U.S. INS.

Mrtravel

hogiegirl wrote:

    > I mean if he has a social security card and he has a stamp in his
    > passport what is the problem?

Prejudice.
If he as an Amerikan looking SS card, prospective employees might not
toss him aside as a for'ner

Other than that, it is perfectly acceptable to use the "Scarlett Letter"
ss card

hogiegirl

Hi Mike

Thanks for your reply. We do have a copy of what you have written. We went to the DMV today with three forms of ID and a social security card. The DMV said that they could still not issue a drivers license (permit) without Craig's actual green card. He has his I 551 stamp in his passport, we have ALL three forms of identification AND a social security card and they WILL NOT issue his card without his green card, which at our poe INS said it would be a minimum of 6-8 months until he would recieve his green card. So our problem isn't a social security number or proper ID, now the problem is that this state agency will not accept the INS I 551 stamp as proof of conditional permenant residence status.
My husband is a truck driver and cannot apply for his truck license until he has a regular drivers license.
I am not sure who to speak to or who to call about this but we can't wait 6-8 months for my husband to be able to work, it is ridiculous. I don't understand why the DMV won't accept the I551 stamp or how they can't accept it... INS says that it holds the SAME value as a green card, so what is the problem???????????????????

L D Jones

hogiegirl wrote:
    >
    > Hi Mike
    >
    > Thanks for your reply. We do have a copy of what you have written. We
    > went to the DMV today with three forms of ID and a social security
    > card. The DMV said that they could still not issue a drivers license
    > (permit) without Craig's actual green card. He has his I 551 stamp in

Did you ask to speak to a supervisor? I didn't read all of the previous
post but I don't know of any state DMV that requires the physical card.
The I-551 stamp is the legal equivalent of a greencard

    > don't understand why the DMV won't accept the I551 stamp or how they
    > can't accept it... INS says that it holds the SAME value as a green
    > card, so what is the problem???????????????????

The problem is the DMV. If you can't get any satisfaction from the local
office perhaps try another one. If that fails then contact the DMV
management in person at the main office