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Old Feb 5th 2008, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by pejpm1
oops, I replied to the wrong thread...somebody on another thread asked me how long I waited for my L1B visa, and I was answering that question...but on this thread by mistake....

The reason I'm asking is that I'm told I'll be pretty much stuck until I get an SS number...no bank account, no apartment etc etc...my company have said that they are willing to pay for 2 weeks accomodation when i get there which I wasnt too happy with...as far as I can see , everything hinges on me getting my ss number and if that is going to take weeks, then I'm going to have to ask for a bit longer...maybe a month i think.. I dont really want to have to pay for a hotel for weeks on end...
When am I legally required to provide my Social Security number:

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/...php?p_faqid=78
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Old Feb 5th 2008, 4:05 am
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Theres the confirmation. Plus they had to look up your dodgy back ground. Proof is in the pudding.
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Sorry Ray, I forgot, I know I promised not to mention your past. Guess I better keep looking over my shoulder.
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Old Feb 5th 2008, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by MsElui
there is actually a link on the london embassy site for a social security department there - i looked it up for the self same reason when we were on our way over. However, when i looked into it it wasnt for people getting a visa - it was as you say - for usc needing a number etc.
Federal Benefits Unit
American Embassy
24/31 Grosvenor Square
W1A 2LQ London
England
Phone: 44-207-499-9000
Fax: 44-207-495-7200

http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/fbu/index.html
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Old Feb 5th 2008, 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by rebs
Hi,

As part of my husband's relocation package, we'll be able to take a househunting trip.

If we do this after we have our visas (L1 & L2), could we apply for SSN on that trip, so it's there waiting for us when we move over fully?
An alien applying for a work-authorized original SSN must present evidence to establish his or her age, identity and employment authorization.

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. We cannot accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

“If the applicant has no immediate need for the SSN and the translation can be done promptly or the foreign language document is the only evidence available; have the document translated by an authorized translator and use the document as evidence.”

For an original work authorized SSN request, an alien applicant must present at least two documents to establish age, identity and current work authorization.

If the immigration document, i.e., I-94, I-688B, I-766, is used to establish work authorization and identity, the alien must provide another document to establish age.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, we can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

Primary Identity Evidence for an alien:

-- Form I-94, Arrival/departure Record in combination with an unexpired
foreign passport
-- Form I-766, Employment Authorization card
-- Form I-688B, Employment Authorization card

Note: Document must be unexpired

However, the acceptability of an identity document must be evaluated on a case by case basis by the office processing the application.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence of identity for an SSN Card on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

The unexpired I-94 with current L-1 status establishes employment authorization for SSN purposes.

A spouse with L-2 status can provide an unexpired I-688B, I-766 or I-94 to establish lawful alien status and employment authorization for SSN purposes.

However, if an I-688B or I-766 is not submitted, the L-2 spouse applicant MUST also submit a marriage document as evidence that he/she is spouse of the L-1 alien to establish employment authorization for SSN purposes.

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500

“The evidence of marital relationship between the applicant and the L-1 alien is a marriage document issued prior to admission to the United States as an L-2 non-immigrant.”

RM 00203.600 List of Documents Establishing Lawful Alien Status for an SSN Card:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203600

Children with L-2 status are not eligible to be authorized to work in the United States.

We cannot accept an application filing receipt or notice of action as evidence of an immigration document.

Take the required documents to the nearest Social Security office. Individuals age 12 and over applying for an original SSN and card must apply in person at a Social Security office.

You can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Note: Applicants who live or receive mail in the Brooklyn, NY, Queens, NY, Phoenix, AZ or Las Vegas, NV area MUST apply in person at one of the Social Security Card Centers, regardless of age.

Card Center Information:

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/...p?p_faqid=1412

Normally, an SSN card should be received in the mail within two weeks after the application and required document(s) have been received and verified.

However, when an alien requests an SSN or replacement card, SSA must verify his or her documents/current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If the initial online verification is not possible through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA may need to send a Form G-845 to the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security for manual verification.

Since 01/06/2007 Social Security field offices can submit an additional electronic online verification, which in the majority of applications eliminates the need to send a Form G-845 along with copies of the applicant’s immigration documents.

However, some applications still require a copy of the immigration document(s) being verified to be sent at the request of the Department of Homeland Security along with the Form G-845 for manual verification.

The Social Security field office should follow up on G-845 and additional electronic verification requests after 20 federal work days.

However, the Social Security Administration has no jurisdiction over immigration laws, procedures or the workload of Bureaus of the Department of Homeland Security.

20 federal work days (Do not count Saturday, Sunday or Federal Holidays) after the date your application was submitted, suggest that you return to the Social Security office where your application was submitted.

You can request that the office:

-- Submit an additional electronic verification
-- Follow up on any G-845 or additional electronic verification
previously submitted
-- Submit a G-845 request if original documents were requested by DHS
-- Issue an SSA-L676 if the application has been denied.

Due to security measures recently put in place to prevent identity theft, SSA will no longer provide a Social Security number over the phone when an individual telephones to obtain his or her SSN.

If you have been assigned an SSN, any Social Security office can provide you with the number. However, you may need to apply for a replacement SSN card if you have not received your card within 14 days of the SSN being assigned.

SSA offices can also assist applicants by issuing a notice acknowledging the SSN application while documents are being verified.

RM 00202.307 Acknowledgement for Form SS-5:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202307

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the Form SS-5.

If ineligible to be assigned an SSN, Social Security offices can provide written notice using Form SSA-L676 to explain that an SSN cannot be assigned due to the applicant not having provided evidence of authorization to work in the United States or evidence of a valid nonwork reason for needing an SSN.

Needing an SSN for school enrollment, private health insurance, banking, filing taxes or to be issued a state driver’s license are NOT valid non work reasons for needing an SSN.

You can find additional information regarding a nonwork need for an SSN on our Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assigns Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers to aliens for tax purposes who are not eligible to be assigned an SSN. A Form W-7, “Application for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number,” needs to be submitted to receive an assigns Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN).

You can download a form W-7 from the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/index.html

You can also contact the IRS ITIN office by calling 1-215-516-4846.

You can find additional information on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/artic...=96287,00.html

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1915.pdf

You can find additional SSN and employment information on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...129227,00.html

You may wish to review IRS publication 519, “U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens,” that can be found on the IRS Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p519/index.html

You can also call the IRS toll-free telephone number, 1-800-829-3676, to request IRS Publication 519, “U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens.”
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