Sick In America - It Can Happen To You
#76
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Are you seriously claiming that, in the UK, the decision as to whether someone is put into a nursing home would have been made by a PHYSIOTHERAPIST?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
I think with specialist areas, you have to actively seek people out in the UK. Usually, GPs will refer you to whoever you want (my GP does anyway) but you just need to know who is good. When you do find the right person, it can be top notch.
Many doctors are very lazy and do not keep up wth things and this can be a disaster.............literally.
#77
Re: Sick In America - It Can Happen To You
Are you seriously claiming that, in the UK, the decision as to whether someone is put into a nursing home would have been made by a PHYSIOTHERAPIST?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
Decisions like that should be made by a team of people but in the hospital OH worked in the physios were like prima donnas. They were very obstructive at meetings and caused huge delays in decisions if things didn't go their way.
The consultants tended to listen to them because they assumed they knew the patients best and people were always rushed, short staffed and quite frankly didn't want the hassle from the physio dept.
I could see what happened to Sophia, happening again today.....and I love the NHS.
Aplogies to all the nice physios out there.
#78
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I don't know how the situation would be dealt with now,but at the time I'd been VERY ill,and rushed to a hospital in London in a coma not expected to live through the night...I was totally paralyzed when I woke up two weeks later,and spent another two weeks in the London hospital,until I was beginning to get some speech and movement back,then I was sent back to Frimley Park hospital in Surrey/Hampshire where the Physio therapist told my husband,in front of me!,that I was never going to get any better,and he needed to look into nursing homes for me the only phsyio she did was to move my arms and legs around and sit on my knees to stop 'footdrop'!,she was obviously VERY professional!!....as luck would have it,my husband was in the USAF and I managed to tell him to get in touch with the AF,and I was medivaced over to Walter Reed,by way of Bethesda Naval Hospital (for 10 days),about 10 days later....thanks to those wonderful people at WR and my own bloodymindedness and VERY hard work,I'm 95% back to the me that I was before the mosquito bit me!!....I KNOW I wouldn't be as well as I am now if it hadn't been for the AF and Walter Reed,I couldn't have coped with being in a nursing home at that age,so I doubt if I'd even be alive today if that had've happened
#79
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Pretty hard to seek a second opinion when you have just awoken from a coma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think with specialist areas, you have to actively seek people out in the UK. Usually, GPs will refer you to whoever you want (my GP does anyway) but you just need to know who is good. When you do find the right person, it can be top notch.
Many doctors are very lazy and do not keep up wth things and this can be a disaster.............literally.
I think with specialist areas, you have to actively seek people out in the UK. Usually, GPs will refer you to whoever you want (my GP does anyway) but you just need to know who is good. When you do find the right person, it can be top notch.
Many doctors are very lazy and do not keep up wth things and this can be a disaster.............literally.
I don't think it is any easier to access a top specialist in the US than in the UK. Quite the contrary. When our son was hospitalised, we had to make do with the specialists at the level 3 hospital which is covered by our plan. Our request to have him moved to a higher level hospital (2 miles away!) was refused.
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Re: Sick In America - It Can Happen To You
Where my OH used to work in the UK, the physio's were very powerful.
Decisions like that should be made by a team of people but in the hospital OH worked in the physios were like prima donnas. They were very obstructive at meetings and caused huge delays in decisions if things didn't go their way.
The consultants tended to listen to them because they assumed they knew the patients best and people were always rushed, short staffed and quite frankly didn't want the hassle from the physio dept.
I could see what happened to Sophia, happening again today.....and I love the NHS.
Aplogies to all the nice physios out there.
Decisions like that should be made by a team of people but in the hospital OH worked in the physios were like prima donnas. They were very obstructive at meetings and caused huge delays in decisions if things didn't go their way.
The consultants tended to listen to them because they assumed they knew the patients best and people were always rushed, short staffed and quite frankly didn't want the hassle from the physio dept.
I could see what happened to Sophia, happening again today.....and I love the NHS.
Aplogies to all the nice physios out there.
#83
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Are you seriously claiming that, in the UK, the decision as to whether someone is put into a nursing home would have been made by a PHYSIOTHERAPIST?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
What was the assessment of the Consultant in charge of your case? And if he/she did indeed agree with your physio, did you ever seek a second opinion before giving up and leaving the UK?
while I was in Walter Reed I had VERY intensive physical Therapy...5 days a week 3 hours in the mornings,lunch,then another 4 hours in the afternoon for the whole 6 months I was there,it was SUCH hard work,but I'm convinced that's why I got better so quickly...no-one pushed me,they just let me do what ever I felt strong enough to do,but they were there to help,as I said before,I could NEVER thank them enough.....if I ever go back to the UK I'd love to bump into that physio,just to slap her!!!!!!:curse:
#84
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Perhaps it was discussed by all the people involved and the physio spoke out of turn? or got the wrong end of the stick.
#85
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i guess it's like situations i find myself in here sometimes, you've just got to ask and ask and ask again and keep on at peeps and don't give up or give in esp where health is the issue.
#86
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I don't know how the situation would be dealt with now,but at the time I'd been VERY ill,and rushed to a hospital in London in a coma not expected to live through the night...I was totally paralyzed when I woke up two weeks later,and spent another two weeks in the London hospital,until I was beginning to get some speech and movement back,then I was sent back to Frimley Park hospital in Surrey/Hampshire where the Physio therapist told my husband,in front of me!,that I was never going to get any better,and he needed to look into nursing homes for me the only phsyio she did was to move my arms and legs around and sit on my knees to stop 'footdrop'!,she was obviously VERY professional!!....as luck would have it,my husband was in the USAF and I managed to tell him to get in touch with the AF,and I was medivaced over to Walter Reed,by way of Bethesda Naval Hospital (for 10 days),about 10 days later....thanks to those wonderful people at WR and my own bloodymindedness and VERY hard work,I'm 95% back to the me that I was before the mosquito bit me!!....I KNOW I wouldn't be as well as I am now if it hadn't been for the AF and Walter Reed,I couldn't have coped with being in a nursing home at that age,so I doubt if I'd even be alive today if that had've happened
The real motto is that we can't assess how good or bad a system is by our own personal anecdotes. Instead we have researchers to put the whole picture together for us and tell us what is working better.
And when we get to those figures, there is-I believe-only one answer: American health care delivers less results for more money than comparable systems. Unless someone wants to actual produce the figures that state otherwise...
#87
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on the contrary, if it was me i would have written to her long before now and told her my outcome, might have helped her with other patients in similar situations and given you satisfaction at the same time.
#88
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To be honest,I really wasn't in any condition to know everything that was happening....all I know was that I heard her tell my husband that,and I managed to summon up the strength to tell him to bring the USAF doctors in to see me,they were there about 2-3 days later,from what I remember everything happened so fast,the US doctors couldn't get over the lack of care I was getting,but I do remember my husband telling me that the English doctor did actually tell him that if she was him,she'd bring the USAF doctors in asap.....the other thing I DO remember VERY clearly was when I was recovering in the hospital in London, the physio used to put me on a 'tilt table' and she told my husband it was very important that I continue being put on it when I was being transfered back to my local hospital,however,the physio at Frimley Park said they didn't have one...but a few days later the door of my room was left open and I actually saw her pushing it past the door!...I knew then,that if I were to stay there I'd never get better....
while I was in Walter Reed I had VERY intensive physical Therapy...5 days a week 3 hours in the mornings,lunch,then another 4 hours in the afternoon for the whole 6 months I was there,it was SUCH hard work,but I'm convinced that's why I got better so quickly...no-one pushed me,they just let me do what ever I felt strong enough to do,but they were there to help,as I said before,I could NEVER thank them enough.....if I ever go back to the UK I'd love to bump into that physio,just to slap her!!!!!!:curse:
while I was in Walter Reed I had VERY intensive physical Therapy...5 days a week 3 hours in the mornings,lunch,then another 4 hours in the afternoon for the whole 6 months I was there,it was SUCH hard work,but I'm convinced that's why I got better so quickly...no-one pushed me,they just let me do what ever I felt strong enough to do,but they were there to help,as I said before,I could NEVER thank them enough.....if I ever go back to the UK I'd love to bump into that physio,just to slap her!!!!!!:curse:
#89
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Have you just come up for air while Pierce is around?