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anotherlimey Apr 17th 2006 1:49 am

Return flight ticket requirements
 
I've got my brother flying in from Tokyo - where he lives - for my wedding; he's only bought a one way ticket because he's flying onto NYC then London after that for a trip home.

My question is: I know the airline will have a fit if they don't see a return ticket, but will an E-ticket/regular ticket to London be enough evidence to prove he doesn't intend to stay?

Jerseygirl Apr 17th 2006 1:53 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I've got my brother flying in from Tokyo - where he lives - for my wedding; he's only bought a one way ticket because he's flying onto NYC then London after that for a trip home.

My question is: I know the airline will have a fit if they don't see a return ticket, but will an E-ticket/regular ticket to London be enough evidence to prove he doesn't intend to stay?

Might help if he is flying with the same airline. Call the airline as its their responsiblity to take your brother home if he is not allowed in the US.

BigDavyG Apr 17th 2006 2:04 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I've got my brother flying in from Tokyo - where he lives - for my wedding; he's only bought a one way ticket because he's flying onto NYC then London after that for a trip home.

My question is: I know the airline will have a fit if they don't see a return ticket, but will an E-ticket/regular ticket to London be enough evidence to prove he doesn't intend to stay?

I would like to think that proof of his subsequent travel arrangements would be enough (print out of booking confirmation), but you never can tell these days - commonsense is no longer that common I'm afraid.

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 17th 2006 2:10 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 
I have a friend who does this all the time.

britchicknyc Apr 17th 2006 2:18 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 
Yep - should be fine. You need to demostrate "signs of onward travel" - they don't care where you are going...

Celsius Apr 17th 2006 3:24 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I've got my brother flying in from Tokyo - where he lives - for my wedding; he's only bought a one way ticket because he's flying onto NYC then London after that for a trip home.

My question is: I know the airline will have a fit if they don't see a return ticket, but will an E-ticket/regular ticket to London be enough evidence to prove he doesn't intend to stay?

It's not that he doesn't have return flight tickets, is it? He has them but they're with different airlines due to his destinations.

He'll have tix from FL to NY to London to Tokyo so have him print out the itineraries for each leg of his journey. That should suffice.

anotherlimey Apr 17th 2006 3:27 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by Celsius
It's not that he doesn't have return flight tickets, is it? He has them but they're with different airlines due to his destinations.

He'll have tix from FL to NY to London to Tokyo so have him print out the itineraries for each leg of his journey. That should suffice.

Excellent, thanks guys.

Glasgowgirl Apr 17th 2006 2:52 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
will an E-ticket/regular ticket to London be enough evidence to prove he doesn't intend to stay?

It will be fine - my friend did this recently from Singapore to LA with no return but an onward ticket to London. They didn't even question her about it.

Rushman Apr 17th 2006 2:55 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 
Right then. So what happens if you genuinely intend to fly into the US on a one way ticket, then drive across the border into Canada and fly home from there but havent fixed a date to fly out of Canada so therefore have no ticket.

How can they prove/argue that you DON'T intend to drive into another country from the US?

Bob Apr 17th 2006 4:27 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by rushman
How can they prove/argue that you DON'T intend to drive into another country from the US?

POE don't have to give you any reason to not admit you, so basically if that's your plan, have proof that you've reserved a car rental and the like....

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 17th 2006 5:50 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by rushman
How can they prove/argue that you DON'T intend to drive into another country from the US?

Can not help but be amused at the thought of a POE Officer being put to the sword this way.

gsnichol Apr 17th 2006 9:59 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by rushman
Right then. So what happens if you genuinely intend to fly into the US on a one way ticket, then drive across the border into Canada and fly home from there but havent fixed a date to fly out of Canada so therefore have no ticket.

How can they prove/argue that you DON'T intend to drive into another country from the US?

I'm not sure you can do this. I think you need to have proof that within 90 days of entering the US you plan to leave for a country that isn't Canada or Mexico, unless you're a resident there. I've never been asked to show my travel tickets/booking confirmations at immigration desks though. They've just asked if I had a ticket to somewhere else - "yes I do" is enough.

JAJ Apr 17th 2006 11:45 pm

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by rushman
Right then. So what happens if you genuinely intend to fly into the US on a one way ticket, then drive across the border into Canada and fly home from there but havent fixed a date to fly out of Canada so therefore have no ticket.

How can they prove/argue that you DON'T intend to drive into another country from the US?


They don't have to prove anything. A qualifying return/onward ticket is mandatory for entry by air/sea into the U.S. on the visa waiver scheme, so you could easily be refused entry. In fact, an airline might not sell you a one-way if you were planning on using the visa waiver scheme.

If you had a valid U.S. tourist visa, or a Canadian/Bermudian passport you could do this, however you would still need to convince the Immigration officer you were not planning to stay in the U.S.

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 18th 2006 1:48 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 

Originally Posted by JAJ
In fact, an airline might not sell you a one-way if you were planning on using the visa waiver scheme.

How would they know?

I was asked once at the check in desk, coming back from Mexico, they assumed VWP but I said no, AP, and that was it. I always wondered if they knew what AP was.

Never been asked otherwise.

lee_in_nj Apr 20th 2006 6:32 am

Re: Return flight ticket requirements
 
BA wouldnt let me on a plane to JFK with a one way ticket. (Pre visa and green card days). They even walked me over to the ticket counter to watch me buy a return ticket.. they were not happy about it at all. I thought it was rather amusing. Apparently they get fined $3000 dollars for everyone who gets to american customs without a return ticket or correct visa.


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