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Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 4:47 am
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It's not currently an issue but I believe the UK is planning to introduce an ESTA like system in the next year or two which will probably mean that having a current UK passport for dual citizens will be much more important...
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by Journalistic
I've kept the rule of using whichever passport of the country I'm in to travel in and out of. ....
But there is no such rule, except as Glasgow Girl said, when entering the US. I think that Canada is/ has also implemented such a rule.

I could imagine that if the UK implements an ESTA type process, which I think is coming, then there may also be a rule on using a British passport if you have one. But as of today, there is no such rule.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
But there is no such rule, except as Glasgow Girl said, when entering the US. I think that Canada is/ has also implemented such a rule.

I think Australia has always had that rule as well, certainly since 1989 when we first visited there. They have border control when you leave where you show the passport that has allowed you to be in the country, either your Australian passport or other passport with valid visa. Our daughter’s partner is Australian American and he shows his US passport at the airline desk when flying to the USA from Australia and then his Australian passport at the border control exit check.

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Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by durham_lad
I think Australia has always that rule as well, certainly since 1989 when we first visited there. They also have border control when you leave the country where you show the passport that has allowed you to be in the country, either your Australian passport or other passport with valid visa. Our daughter’s partner is Australian American and he shows his US passport at the airline desk when flying to the USA from Australia and then his Australian passport at the border control exit check.
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Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by Journalistic
Why do you say that?
The primary reason they request your foreign passport is to ensure your identity is consistent across both sets of documents, e.g. your name in your US passport matches your British passport. HMPO won’t issue your British passport if any of your biographical details differ from that on your other passports.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by Journalistic
I thought you had to travel in and out of the UK on your British passport?
There is no legal requirement to do so however you will be treated as a US citizen if you present a US passport so if your intention is to do anything other than is permitted as a visitor then travelling on your British passport is a wise move.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by Journalistic
I thought you had to travel in and out of the UK on your British passport?
I've only used my US passport to enter the UK since I became a US citizen 14 years ago. Don't see the need to carry multiple passports on trips, unless there is a specific requirement to do so.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Glasgow Girl
I have had copies of identity and address documents notarized and accepted by several UK financial institutions, none of them had any issues with that.
To be clear, it was not the UK financial folks who had any issues, it was the NY state notaries. The UK folks were asking for these notarized copies. The notaries would not notarize copies of "official documents", in my case passport and driving license. They did say it was a state-by-state thing.

I didn't ask about other 'non-official' stuff like copies of statements, utility bills, etc. I didn't debate things as a different approach was eventually used.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by celticgrid
To be clear, it was not the UK financial folks who had any issues, it was the NY state notaries. The UK folks were asking for these notarized copies. The notaries would not notarize copies of "official documents", in my case passport and driving license. They did say it was a state-by-state thing.

I didn't ask about other 'non-official' stuff like copies of statements, utility bills, etc. I didn't debate things as a different approach was eventually used.
I don’t think that’s the issue, they have the same restriction in CT as NY, the issue is that they are not qualified to authenticate that a document is real, so they can’t certify a copy. I have got around that by having them notarize my certification that the copies are true and original. I have a stamp I have used and then they notarize me signing the stamp/statement.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by tht
I don’t think that’s the issue, they have the same restriction in CT as NY, the issue is that they are not qualified to authenticate that a document is real, so they can’t certify a copy. I have got around that by having them notarize my certification that the copies are true and original. I have a stamp I have used and then they notarize me signing the stamp/statement.
IMO any man and his dog can become a notary in the US.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 12:53 pm
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Yes, the key phrase is “I certify this document is a true copy of the original document” so you have to supply the original and the copy to the notary but only send the notarized copy to whoever requires it. That is what various UK financial institutions told me to do, and I had no issues at either end.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 1:00 pm
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I really do not understand what the problem is. Just take a photo copy of the main page showing your photo and send it with your application.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 1:12 pm
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Two things going on here. One is a passport application which does not need a notarized copy, the other is a range of other processes such as verifying identify for UK institutions that do require certified/notarized copies,
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Glasgow Girl
Two things going on here. One is a passport application which does not need a notarized copy, the other is a range of other processes such as verifying identify for UK institutions that do require certified/notarized copies,
Agreed. This thread is re UK PP renewal/application…so please let’s keep it on topic.
 
Old Apr 23rd 2023 | 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Glasgow Girl
Yes, the key phrase is “I certify this document is a true copy of the original document” so you have to supply the original and the copy to the notary but only send the notarized copy to whoever requires it. That is what various UK financial institutions told me to do, and I had no issues at either end.
I can envision a person making a written statement to that effect under the procedure for affixing a jurat thereto. No need to exhibit the original to the notary. She would not need it.
 


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