Removal of Conditions - awful interview
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The generalization is from my personal undersanding a fact. In France, as in Quebec, a woman does not take a husband's surname upon marriage and their assets are not comingled. If either of those things happen, it is only because they choose to do so, not because it is the norm.
Actually you aren't. My husband was not on several occasions given fair treatment by USCIS personnel and he was from Canada and English was his primary language. He had his papers thrown back at him by desk personnel and told that he should of hired NY local counsel rather than one in California. When a legal counsel in the room noted the treatment he attempted to intervenue and my husband was told to leave or be escorted out by security. It was the same type of behavior as social security personnel when he questioned their decision based a decision that was repealed by the agency but not known by the personnel.
In both instances, he filed formal complaints and although he heard back in response to both complaints he was in essence told nothing would be done to the personnel in question and that more or less he was to suck it up.
In both instances, he filed formal complaints and although he heard back in response to both complaints he was in essence told nothing would be done to the personnel in question and that more or less he was to suck it up.
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With due respect, the people of this forum seem to be giving you well intentioned, helpful perspectives and advice for your consideration. They are not arguing you, nor are your opponents.
FWIW I am in the EU at the moment and the way the immigration people treated me here was terrible, and I can say the same about my 'status' back home etc...
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FWIW I am in the EU at the moment and the way the immigration people treated me here was terrible, and I can say the same about my 'status' back home etc...
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I'm reading your comment as that the foreign account was opened in your wife's name, and you are paying into it.
If so...
Why on earth was not that new foreign account a joint account? It seems that rather than this being weak evidence, it is harmful evidence.
Take the advice previously given several times, and see a lawyer.
If so...
Why on earth was not that new foreign account a joint account? It seems that rather than this being weak evidence, it is harmful evidence.
Take the advice previously given several times, and see a lawyer.
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And the "consistent" position you are taking is, if you stop and think about it, the hurdle you need to overcome, and one which you have built yourself. Stand back, look at it from USCIS' viewpoint under their rules...
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And the "consistent" position you are taking is, if you stop and think about it, the hurdle you need to overcome, and one which you have built yourself. Stand back, look at it from USCIS' viewpoint under their rules...
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Well as I said I live in Europe, and the "government" position - if that is what you call the immigration authorities, is far more difficult than what you have mentioned here.
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Besides there is no such thing as European immigration authorities, except perhaps at the inter governmental level. European directives are translated into national law and implemented by national authorities with some degree of discretion.
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FR,
I don't want this whole thing to get blown out of proportion. As I said, some cases are chosen randomly, you could be one of them. Case officers vary from being super duper nice, to being the "officer from hell". There really is no point picking apart what happened any more than we've done here. No one can get inside the officer's head (nor should they try), to see why she did this or that, or didn't do this or that. You had a bad experience, and now all you can do is wait for a result. In the meantime, consult with an immigration attorney to see what you can do IF (and that's a big IF) your I-751 gets denied. The consultation can range anywhere from free to about $200, but it could put your mind at ease to get a professional's opinion.
This discussion can last forever regarding the "why" aspect, but the fact is none of us knows.
Personally, my gut feeling says you'll be fine.
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I don't want this whole thing to get blown out of proportion. As I said, some cases are chosen randomly, you could be one of them. Case officers vary from being super duper nice, to being the "officer from hell". There really is no point picking apart what happened any more than we've done here. No one can get inside the officer's head (nor should they try), to see why she did this or that, or didn't do this or that. You had a bad experience, and now all you can do is wait for a result. In the meantime, consult with an immigration attorney to see what you can do IF (and that's a big IF) your I-751 gets denied. The consultation can range anywhere from free to about $200, but it could put your mind at ease to get a professional's opinion.
This discussion can last forever regarding the "why" aspect, but the fact is none of us knows.
Personally, my gut feeling says you'll be fine.
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The account is in your wife's name. Your wife can change the address on the account any time she likes. You - and your family back home? - are paying money into that account. That's not a commingling of assets, that's a transfer of assets, from you and your family, to your wife. And you presented that to USCIS as evidence supporting your application?
What rule precludes that we have a joint account but also keep separate accounts from which we pay most expenses, but contribute jointly by making transfers to each other in proportion to income. Only an Orwellian government would punish us for that. Is that what you all are saying?
You have to start viewing this from their point of view and not keep expecting everyone else to see it from your view. It's not your rules this game is played under.
Good luck. Get legal advice.
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FR,
I don't want this whole thing to get blown out of proportion. As I said, some cases are chosen randomly, you could be one of them. Case officers vary from being super duper nice, to being the "officer from hell". There really is no point picking apart what happened any more than we've done here. No one can get inside the officer's head (nor should they try), to see why she did this or that, or didn't do this or that. You had a bad experience, and now all you can do is wait for a result. In the meantime, consult with an immigration attorney to see what you can do IF (and that's a big IF) your I-751 gets denied. The consultation can range anywhere from free to about $200, but it could put your mind at ease to get a professional's opinion.
This discussion can last forever regarding the "why" aspect, but the fact is none of us knows.
Personally, my gut feeling says you'll be fine.
Rene
I don't want this whole thing to get blown out of proportion. As I said, some cases are chosen randomly, you could be one of them. Case officers vary from being super duper nice, to being the "officer from hell". There really is no point picking apart what happened any more than we've done here. No one can get inside the officer's head (nor should they try), to see why she did this or that, or didn't do this or that. You had a bad experience, and now all you can do is wait for a result. In the meantime, consult with an immigration attorney to see what you can do IF (and that's a big IF) your I-751 gets denied. The consultation can range anywhere from free to about $200, but it could put your mind at ease to get a professional's opinion.
This discussion can last forever regarding the "why" aspect, but the fact is none of us knows.
Personally, my gut feeling says you'll be fine.
Rene
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Thanks for clarifying that, and at the same time wondering why to didn't say so in your opening post. Calling it a "second filing" made it sound as though you'd had to file a new petition.
Which leads me to wonder if part of the problem may have been miscommunication between you and the inteviewer - perhaps you did not explain yourself clearly enough, as happened here. In any case, my advice remains the same - see an immigration attorney.
Edited to add, now that I've finished reading the thread: with regard to communication, if you expressed yourself verbally in the interview the way you've expressed yourself in writing in this thread, I can see that the interviewer might been put off. There's a time to be self-assured and a time to grovel - interviews with USCIS are the time to grovel.
Regards, JEff
Which leads me to wonder if part of the problem may have been miscommunication between you and the inteviewer - perhaps you did not explain yourself clearly enough, as happened here. In any case, my advice remains the same - see an immigration attorney.
Edited to add, now that I've finished reading the thread: with regard to communication, if you expressed yourself verbally in the interview the way you've expressed yourself in writing in this thread, I can see that the interviewer might been put off. There's a time to be self-assured and a time to grovel - interviews with USCIS are the time to grovel.
Regards, JEff
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What happened to Mr.F's rule of interviewing that states "answer the question that is asked", which I believe you quote on occasion? The question "Do you have joint health plan?" is a yes-or-no question, the same as "Do you know what time it is?".
Just wondering.
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Just wondering.
Regards, JEff
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If our expenses were paid through our joint account I would still be paying in proportion to my income. Welcome to the 21st century: all legitimate couples have business arrangements in one form or another.
My wife earns rent income on assets acquired before the marriage and pays related bills off of that. It's perfectly natural she keeps a financial firewall between us.
My wife earns rent income on assets acquired before the marriage and pays related bills off of that. It's perfectly natural she keeps a financial firewall between us.
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What happened to Mr.F's rule of interviewing that states "answer the question that is asked", which I believe you quote on occasion? The question "Do you have joint health plan?" is a yes-or-no question, the same as "Do you know what time it is?".
Just wondering.
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Just wondering.
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If everyone can stay on-topic now, I'll keep the thread open. FR, you have asked for input and advice, and have received it. Others, please be constructive in your input.
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