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khitan004 Apr 6th 2012 11:45 pm

Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
Hi there,

Hoping somebody could give me as much advice as possible for somebody wishing to relocate to Florida as a teacher.

Ray Apr 7th 2012 12:20 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9993454)
Hi there,

Hoping somebody could give me as much advice as possible for somebody wishing to relocate to Florida as a teacher.

if you can get a job offer the employer files for the visa

state school could not afford the cost unless you are an unusual specialist
but there are many unemployed teacher already in the US

Jerseygirl Apr 7th 2012 2:18 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9993454)
Hi there,

Hoping somebody could give me as much advice as possible for somebody wishing to relocate to Florida as a teacher.

Are you an American citizen or are you married to one? If not does either of you have a Green Card or visa to work in the US? It is extremely doubtful that teaching would lead to a US visa. Many teachers are out of work and teachers are still being laid off due to the economy.

ian-mstm Apr 7th 2012 2:19 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9993454)
Hoping somebody could give me as much advice as possible for somebody wishing to relocate to Florida as a teacher.

Primary/Elementary? Middle/Junior high? Secondary/High school? What degrees do you have? How much experience do you have? It's difficult to give advice, when you make such an open and nebulous comment.

Ian

khitan004 Apr 8th 2012 1:31 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
I am qualified to teach Physics and Maths up to Grade 12. I would be looking to teach high school. Neither of us are US citizens.

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2012 1:50 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994844)
I am qualified to teach Physics and Maths up to Grade 12. I would be looking to teach high school. Neither of us are US citizens.

Out of interest...why Florida?

Try private schools...they may have the funds to arrange a visa for you and they do tend to like British accents.

fatbrit Apr 8th 2012 2:26 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994844)
I am qualified to teach Physics and Maths up to Grade 12. I would be looking to teach high school. Neither of us are US citizens.


Well at least you've got desirable subjects! The route is possible but will take a lot of effort and some luck to get you over. Confining your search to Florida is reducing your chances of success.

khitan004 Apr 8th 2012 2:32 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
How much would all the VISAs cost? I would be looking to permanently relocate and become a citizen.

fatbrit Apr 8th 2012 2:42 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994892)
How much would all the VISAs cost? I would be looking to permanently relocate and become a citizen.

Okay -- you can't just buy a visa to live here and come and teach. Well you can, but it requires capital of at least half a million down on the table before you even start. Have you got that sort of dosh?

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2012 2:45 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994892)
How much would all the VISAs cost? I would be looking to permanently relocate and become a citizen.

Your employer would pay for the visa. Take a read through this...it is also worthwhile reading through other sections of the Wiki re the US.

Even though Maths and Science are desirable subjects...your chances of getting a school district to go to the time and trouble of sponsoring you is very slim. Especially as there are thousands of US teachers out of work. On the other hand...the private schools my daughter went to used to send a delegation all over the world looking for teachers. Admittedly the economy was in better shape then.

khitan004 Apr 8th 2012 5:14 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9994905)
Okay -- you can't just buy a visa to live here and come and teach. Well you can, but it requires capital of at least half a million down on the table before you even start. Have you got that sort of dosh?

Visa applications cost half a million?

dbj1000 Apr 8th 2012 5:26 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
Something tells me this thread is going to be fun. I'll get the popcorn.

lisa67 Apr 8th 2012 5:29 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9995035)
Visa applications cost half a million?

No, you miss understood. fatbrit said that you can "buy" a visa for half a million. It's an investment visa.

A visa to work here as a teacher, will however cost your employer several thousand dollars. If your husband is coming over too he will either have to get a visa in his own right or come on the back of yours which opens up a whole other can of worms.
Usually H1B visas are used in your scenario and if he comes in on the back of that and gets an H4 visa he won't be able to work.

lisa67 Apr 8th 2012 5:29 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by dbj1000 (Post 9995045)
Something tells me this thread is going to be fun. I'll get the popcorn.

Oh at least some mini eggs.....

dbj1000 Apr 8th 2012 6:03 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by lisa67 (Post 9995051)
Oh at least some mini eggs.....

The little piglets devoured them all within seconds of getting up (at noon!)

khitan004 Apr 8th 2012 6:05 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
So basically a visa application done personally will cost me thousands of dollars? Am I best to get an immigration attorney or get outside help? I am in liaison with the Florida Education Board so was hoping you could all give me some advice from your own personal experiences. I am weighing up my options and seeing whether it is viable/worth the hassle.

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2012 6:07 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9995105)
So basically a visa application done personally will cost me thousands of dollars? Am I best to get an immigration attorney or get outside help? I am in liaison with the Florida Education Board so was hoping you could all give me some advice from your own personal experiences. I am weighing up my options and seeing whether it is viable/worth the hassle.

No...it will cost your employer thousands of dollars. The employer must get the visa ball rolling and they must pay for it.

A question to ask yourself...why would they do that when there are thousands of USC teachers that have been laid off and are looking for work?

dbj1000 Apr 8th 2012 6:25 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
As Jerseygirl already suggested:

READ THIS!

...AND THIS!

...then perhaps you'll have a better starting point from which to ask specific questions.

fatbrit Apr 8th 2012 6:29 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9995105)
So basically a visa application done personally will cost me thousands of dollars? Am I best to get an immigration attorney or get outside help? I am in liaison with the Florida Education Board so was hoping you could all give me some advice from your own personal experiences. I am weighing up my options and seeing whether it is viable/worth the hassle.

An employer-sponsored visa to citizenship might run like this:
1/ the employer sponsors you for an H1b and you can work at the school
2/ the employer further sponsors you for residency and you become a permenant resident. At this stage you are no longer tied to your employer and there is no clock counting down to your leaving.
3/ After 5 years as a permenant resident, you naturalize as a US citizen.

Important points to above:
1/ The employer usually foots the bill. Expect it to cost them $5k to $10k.
2/ This is at the whim of the employer. Sensible people get it written into their contracts. Some employers expect contributions from their employee. Expect the total bill to be $10k or more.
3/ Your choice and usually quite DIY. Expect to fork out $500 to $1000 for the whole thing.

But if you want to just "buy a visa" half a million bucks on the table will buy you residency and place you at step 2.

Sally Redux Apr 8th 2012 6:32 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9994860)
Out of interest...why Florida?

Yes I would also like to know.

Ray Apr 8th 2012 6:32 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9995152)
Yes I would also like to know.

probably cos I and Shamu live there

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2012 6:33 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9995152)
Yes I would also like to know.

Everybody and their dog wants to move to Florida...why? :confused:

Sally Redux Apr 8th 2012 6:34 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9995156)
Everybody and their dog wants to move to Florida...why? :confused:

Apart from the Ray and Shamu factor :confused:

AmerLisa Apr 8th 2012 7:15 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9994860)
Out of interest...why Florida?


Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9995152)
Yes I would also like to know.


Originally Posted by Ray (Post 9995154)
probably cos I and Shamu live there


Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 9995156)
Everybody and their dog wants to move to Florida...why? :confused:

I have always asked and wondered that about the people who come on here and want to move to Florida. I've only been there once, a week in January and it was ok. But, I've heard that its terribly warm in the summer, extremely high humidity and bugs galore! So I will join in again and ask why?

Although I'm beginning to think its what Ray has suggested....:nod::D

khitan004 Apr 8th 2012 7:19 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
Why do I feel victimised for asking a question on a forum? Surely the raison d'etre for this forum is to share experiences and advice.

Thank you kindly to those of you who have given my things to think about. It appears as though I will have to cross Florida off my list given that I am highly unlikely to be considered against a US citizen of similar standing.

Jerseygirl Apr 8th 2012 7:30 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9995214)
Why do I feel victimised for asking a question on a forum? Surely the raison d'etre for this forum is to share experiences and advice.

Thank you kindly to those of you who have given my things to think about. It appears as though I will have to cross Florida off my list given that I am highly unlikely to be considered against a US citizen of similar standing.

Sorry if our comments about Florida offended you. We get many people each week asking about moving to Florida. The US is a huge country...why not broaden your outlook...rather than choosing a state with high unemployment? You mentioned that you are liaising with the Florida Education Board maybe they can offer you something.

Edit: Unfortunately you have chosen one of the hardest countries to move to...have you considered Canada or Australia?

tonrob Apr 8th 2012 2:17 pm

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 9995154)
probably cos I and Shamu live there

You're not shacked up with that bloody whale again, are you? It'll come to no good - you mark my words.

ian-mstm Apr 8th 2012 3:42 pm

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994844)
I am qualified to teach Physics and Maths up to Grade 12. I would be looking to teach high school.

That's great, but there are still some questions left unanswered. I asked them, because a potential employer is more likely to want someone with 10 years experience vs someone with no experience. Further, most high schools require that you have a Master's degree (and many will specifically require a Master of Arts in Teaching), although just about any Master's degree will do.

Ian

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 8th 2012 4:04 pm

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 
I am always slightly surprised by people who come on here asking very basic questions, which usually could be answered by clicking on the Really Really read me link but seem to have spent many many years doing research to obtain their qualifications.

Bob Apr 9th 2012 2:16 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9994844)
I am qualified to teach Physics and Maths up to Grade 12. I would be looking to teach high school. Neither of us are US citizens.

That's great, but are you state certified to teach in that state?

Basically you can realistically expect your chances of getting a visa to teach in the US as zero, unless you are at the university level.

If you're read the wiki and can say yes to any of the other visa routes, your chances will improve.

Giantaxe Apr 9th 2012 3:43 am

Re: Relocation and Teaching in Florida
 

Originally Posted by khitan004 (Post 9995214)
Why do I feel victimised for asking a question on a forum? Surely the raison d'etre for this forum is to share experiences and advice.

Thank you kindly to those of you who have given my things to think about. It appears as though I will have to cross Florida off my list given that I am highly unlikely to be considered against a US citizen of similar standing.

The same will likely apply in the other 49 states too. This isn't a good time to be a public (state) school teacher in the US, given the number who are being laid off due to state budget woes. You do have your subject expertise in your favour, but unless you can find a private school willing to sponsor a visa for you, your prospects of moving to the US are slim.


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