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Registering for the "draft", and SSN

Old Oct 1st 2002, 3:24 pm
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Hello Everyone!

Joe in now in possession of his 2 year Green Card, so all that is done for now.
My newest questions:

He just got a registration acknowledgement card from the Selective Service
System. Does the INS register you? I assumed that since he's not a citizen, he
didn't have to register.

It's not a big deal, I was just curious.

And anyone else having a problem with their SSN? His still says he's dead or
something.

Thanks!

Megan
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 3:36 pm
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Any male between the age of 18 and 26 resident in the US (citizen or
otherwise, *illegal* or legal) has to register for selective service. INS
forwards the information automatically now - see the I-485 form.

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    > Hello Everyone!
    > Joe in now in possession of his 2 year Green Card, so all that is done for
now.
    > My newest questions:
    > He just got a registration acknowledgement card from the Selective Service
    > System. Does the INS register you? I assumed that since he's not a
citizen, he
    > didn't have to register.
    > It's not a big deal, I was just curious.
    > And anyone else having a problem with their SSN? His still says he's dead
or
    > something.
    > Thanks!
    > Megan
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 3:54 pm
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    >Any male between the age of 18 and 26 resident in the US (citizen or
    >otherwise, *illegal* or legal) has to register for selective service. INS
    >forwards the information automatically now - see the I-485 form.

I didn't notice that on I-485.
I was just curious, anyway.

Thanks,

Megan
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 4:32 pm
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Bubsy579 wrote:
    > Hello Everyone!
    > Joe in now in possession of his 2 year Green Card, so all that is done for now.
    > My newest questions:
    > He just got a registration acknowledgement card from the Selective Service
    > System. Does the INS register you? I assumed that since he's not a citizen, he
    > didn't have to register.

In some cases I saw where they did this. He should verify this with SSS,
www.sss.gov
As a PR, he has to register.
Even illegal aliens have to register

    > It's not a big deal, I was just curious.

It is a big deal if he isn't registered

    > And anyone else having a problem with their SSN? His still says he's dead or
    > something.

SSNs are never reissued. So, if he has the number from a dead person,
there is a
problem. Visit your nearest SSA office.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 4:54 pm
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    >It is a big deal if he isn't registered

But he is registered, so it isn't a big deal.

I was just curious if the INS registered for him. Geez.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 6:41 pm
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Bubsy579 wrote:
    > >It is a big deal if he isn't registered
    > But he is registered, so it isn't a big deal.
    > I was just curious if the INS registered for him. Geez.

You didn't say you knew he was registered.

Since I have doubts about INS's ability, he should double check with SSS
to make sure
they know he is registered.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 7:50 pm
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    >Since I have doubts about INS's ability, he should double check with SSS
    >to make sure
    >they know he is registered.

We got the card from SSS, so he is registered.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 9:20 pm
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I know someone mentioned that they don't re-use SSNs, but why 23 years later,
is my husband's lower, but pretty close to mine?

That's just weird.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 10:03 pm
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Originally posted by Bubsy579:
I know someone mentioned that they don't re-use SSNs, but why 23 years later,
is my husband's lower, but pretty close to mine?

That's just weird.
Which set of numbers are you referring to? The first three; last three or the middle two numbers. It was my understanding that the middle numbers designate place of birth. I know that my husband applied in the same city I got mine original SS card from at the age of 16 and his middle numbers are 88 and mine are 40. But then I wasn't born in the US so it would be different.

As for the SS registration, please note that it is mandatory that a male between the ages of 18 and 26 is registered if they wish to ever apply for US naturalization. So if your husband at some point in the future wants to apply for citizenship, at least that obligation has been taken care of.

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Old Oct 1st 2002, 11:00 pm
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Bubsy579 wrote:

    > And anyone else having a problem with their SSN? His still says he's dead or
    > something.

Who's telling him he's dead or how is he determining his SSN has him listed as
dead? If it's a credit card company or some other business, they probably have
screwed up records, since SSA doesn't verify SSNs for businesses and tell them you
are dead.

I suggest he call 1-800-772-1213 to review his SSN record. If everything is OK, he
can either request an SSN verification printout from his local SSA office or submit
a SSA-3288 to send info from his SSN record be sent to whoever says he's dead.

http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-3288.-
html


Take care,

Mike
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 11:13 pm
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Rete wrote:

    > Which set of numbers are you referring to? The first three; last three
    > or the middle two numbers. It was my understanding that the middle
    > numbers designate place of birth. I know that my husband applied in the
    > same city I got mine original SS card from at the age of 16 and his
    > middle numbers are 88 and mine are 40. But then I wasn't born in the US
    > so it would be different.

Hi All!

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
Area Group Serial
Example: 1 2 3 - 4 5 - 6 7 8 9

Area:

The Social Security number consists of nine (9) digits.

Since 1973, social security numbers have been issued by our central office.
The first three (3) digits of
a person's social security number are determined by the ZIP Code of the
mailing address shown on
the application for a social security number. Prior to 1973, social security
numbers were assigned by
our field offices. The number merely established that his/her card was
issued by one of our offices in
that State.

http://www.ssa.gov/foia/stateweb.-
html


Group:

The group number (middle two (2) digits) range from 01 to 99 but are not
assigned in consecutive order. For administrative reasons, group numbers
issued first consist of the ODD numbers from 01 through 09 and then EVEN
numbers from 10 through 98, within each area number allocated to a State.
After all numbers in group 98 of a particular area have been issued, the
EVEN Groups 02 through 08 are used, followed by ODD Groups 11 through 99.

http://www.ssa.gov/foia/highgroup-
.htm


This chart below shows how Group numbers are assigned:

ODD - 01, 03, 05, 07, 09 EVEN - 10 to 98 EVEN - 02, 04, 06, 08 ODD - 11 to
99

Serial:

The serial numbers (last four (4) digits) run consecutively from 0001
through 9999.

Take care,

Mike
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 11:23 pm
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Rete wrote:
    > Originally posted by Bubsy579:
    > > I know someone mentioned that they don't re-use SSNs, but why 23 years
    > > later,
    > > is my husband's lower, but pretty close to mine?
    > >
    > > That's just weird.
    > >
    > Which set of numbers are you referring to? The first three; last three
    > or the middle two numbers.

According to:
http://www.cpsr.o-
rg/cpsr/privacy/ssn/ssn.faq.html#Structure


The first 3 represent where the number was assigned.

Here is an old table

http://www.cpsr.org/c-
psr/privacy/ssn/ssn.structure.html


Here is the table effective 1973

http://www.ssa.gov/foia/stateweb.-
html



The remaining info is also from:


http://www.cpsr.org/c-
psr/privacy/ssn/ssn.structure.html



The second group (2 digits) is the group number

The final 4 is the serial number.. These are chronolgically assigned for
each area and group combination

So, the first 5 digits are not related order of issue
The last 4 digits are related to the order of issue within the
area-group combination.
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 11:29 pm
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I was confused and previously indicated the middle group were not
related to chronology.
They are, but not as clearly related as the last 4.

The first 3 are area
The second 2 are group numbers that relate to the chronological order of
numbers listed
in an area. Before 1965, only odd numbers below 10 and even numbers
above 9 were used

So, in order of chronology.

1.Odd numbers, 01 to 09
2.Even numbers, 10 to 98
3.Even numbers, 02 to 08
4.Odd numbers, 11 to 99

The last 4 are chronologically issued within the area-group.


Bubsy579 wrote:
    > I know someone mentioned that they don't re-use SSNs, but why 23 years later,
    > is my husband's lower, but pretty close to mine?
    > That's just weird.
 
Old Oct 2nd 2002, 2:14 am
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