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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
(Post 9150768)
You're right... very sad. I had no idea it was so bad! On our last trip to Scotland we stayed in Edinburgh... and never even went to Glasgow. I still have lots of family there, though!
Ian |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Bob
(Post 9152371)
I don't really care if they want to stand or not, nor how it reflects the quality of their work.
I just think it very weird that such a mundane job that isn't hindered by being seated would have people so vehemently against the comfort. It's the same with having less vacation time. Just two weeks paid leave and after that it's no pay leave. My thinking is that if more countries adopted this approach, Companies would find that they are becoming more productive over a period of time. Just my two cents ;) |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 9152504)
I guess the approach here in the US is the emphasis on productivity, or at least how it's percieved. Employers believe that you're more productive standing while doing certain jobs rather than sitting. I'm not arguing their case -- never worked at a checkout so I've no idea what it feels like to stand for 8 hrs on the job. Preganant or otherwise. Personally, if I felt I couldn't stand for 8 hrs on the job I wouldn't choose that line of work. It's as simple as that. I remember my bro buying special shoes when he worked at his first job at Micky D's that required standing, several years ago :)
It's the same with having less vacation time. Just two weeks paid leave and after that it's no pay leave. My thinking is that if more countries adopted this approach, Companies would find that they are becoming more productive over a period of time. Just my two cents ;) |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
I am amazed how Bob's comment on chairs has turned into a group of women whinging and moaning about pregnancies.
Jeez anyone would think listening to them they were the first not the end of a long line which started out without pain killing drugs and other modern luxuries which make is so easy. |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 9152504)
My thinking is that if more countries adopted this approach, Companies would find that they are becoming more productive over a period of time. Just my two cents ;)
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by lansbury
(Post 9152524)
I am amazed how Bob's comment on chairs has turned into a group of women whinging and moaning about pregnancies.
Jeez anyone would think listening to them they were the first not the end of a long line which started out without pain killing drugs and other modern luxuries which make is so easy. |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 9152200)
The reason why many Brits log onto BE is so they can have a good old moan about their adopted country. You're not a Brit...that's why you don't understand.
Besides which I'm sure you guys are pretty home sick being so far away from home. I just ran into a lady from Texas that did my mammogram this morning. She's moved here to be with her daughter and grandkids and she was pretty home sick too. It's a long way to Texas from where we are .... |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 9152516)
I have to respectfully disagree on the vacation point. I get bugger all vacation and have done so for the last 5 years in this job and I'm not very productive at all . . .
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 9152532)
You see, this is where I think the US is short-sighted and has a short term focus. People who get little vacation are much more prone to burn out than those that get a more "reasonable' allowance, so I am very unconvinced that modestly longer vacation time reduces productivity in the long run.
Edit: Don't quote me ... but my personal feeling is that employers really don't care -- you get burned out and quit they can always find someone to replace you. It seems heartless but it works for them, so why would they care. There's the thinking in a nutsell!! |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 9152504)
I guess the approach here in the US is the emphasis on productivity, or at least how it's percieved. Employers believe that you're more productive standing while doing certain jobs rather than sitting. I'm not arguing their case -- never worked at a checkout so I've no idea what it feels like to stand for 8 hrs on the job. Preganant or otherwise. Personally, if I felt I couldn't stand for 8 hrs on the job I wouldn't choose that line of work. It's as simple as that. I remember my bro buying special shoes when he worked at his first job at Micky D's that required standing, several years ago :)
It's the same with having less vacation time. Just two weeks paid leave and after that it's no pay leave. My thinking is that if more countries adopted this approach, Companies would find that they are becoming more productive over a period of time. Just my two cents ;) Odd...a few of us thought you were the one bitching (as you put it) and moaning. :blink::unsure: |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by lansbury
(Post 9152524)
I am amazed how Bob's comment on chairs has turned into a group of women whinging and moaning about pregnancies.
Jeez anyone would think listening to them they were the first not the end of a long line which started out without pain killing drugs and other modern luxuries which make is so easy. You are on the wind-up right ? |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 9152571)
Odd...a few of us thought you were the one bitching (as you put it) and moaning. :blink::unsure:
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Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 9152504)
I guess the approach here in the US is the emphasis on productivity, or at least how it's percieved. Employers believe that you're more productive standing while doing certain jobs rather than sitting. I'm not arguing their case -- never worked at a checkout so I've no idea what it feels like to stand for 8 hrs on the job. Preganant or otherwise. Personally, if I felt I couldn't stand for 8 hrs on the job I wouldn't choose that line of work. It's as simple as that. I remember my bro buying special shoes when he worked at his first job at Micky D's that required standing, several years ago :)
I have worked in a place that required standing all day long, I've got knackered ankles and can't do it, but I needed the money. I was lucky as it was a welding job, I was in a blacked out booth and when I knocked out a swinging chair for the booth with off cuts, they turned a blind eye because they really needed qualified welders....Standing, sitting, didn't effect my productivity, I still managed to clear a 3 month back log of parts sitting as when I was standing, but I was far more productive the next day not being doped out of my head on inflammatory drugs. |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Bob
(Post 9152613)
In this economy, I think people take whatever job they can get.
I have worked in a place that required standing all day long, I've got knackered ankles and can't do it, but I needed the money. I was lucky as it was a welding job, I was in a blacked out booth and when I knocked out a swinging chair for the booth with off cuts, they turned a blind eye because they really needed qualified welders....Standing, sitting, didn't effect my productivity, I still managed to clear a 3 month back log of parts sitting as when I was standing, but I was far more productive the next day not being doped out of my head on inflammatory drugs. Now after standing for a 3-hour lecture every joint in my body is killing me - mind you, just been told last week by an ortho that I need a knee replacement so that may have something to do with it. TBH, I can't say I have even noticed whether the checkout workers at Asda, Tesco's, etc., are sitting or standing. :confused: |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Bob
(Post 9152613)
In this economy, I think people take whatever job they can get.
I have worked in a place that required standing all day long, I've got knackered ankles and can't do it, but I needed the money. I was lucky as it was a welding job, I was in a blacked out booth and when I knocked out a swinging chair for the booth with off cuts, they turned a blind eye because they really needed qualified welders....Standing, sitting, didn't effect my productivity, I still managed to clear a 3 month back log of parts sitting as when I was standing, but I was far more productive the next day not being doped out of my head on inflammatory drugs. I've watched my bro work at shit jobs while he was in College, get burned out and quit :unsure: Why would the employer even care ? |
Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
Originally Posted by Desdemona
(Post 9152651)
Besides which, if you had quit he'd have someone lined up to take your place the next day. So basically he doesn't care as long as you produce. That's the bottom line ...
I've watched my bro work at shit jobs while he was in College, get burned out and quit :unsure: Why would the employer even care ? |
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