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ian-mstm Jan 25th 2011 5:48 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9127665)
Who decides on the definition rights though?

Since you ask, the US Constitution defines your rights.



As has been said, people used to have the right to keep slaves but times change.
They kept slaves, yes... but it was never a right. This is one of the reasons why I suggested that people don't fully understand the meaning of the word.

Ian

nettlebed Jan 25th 2011 5:48 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by nethead (Post 9128047)
They do that much more in the Oz forum :p

Well, you know what the Aussie's definition of a whinging pom is, don't you? A batsman who complains about being given out LBW by the square leg umpire.

Sally Redux Jan 25th 2011 5:48 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Leslie66 (Post 9128050)
I know. I go there when it's dry in here and I'm Jonesing for a fix. :lol:

Someone posted Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech in there the other night.

Some people don't even change their user name when they have a change of heart, so they're still called something like GottaLeaveHorribleUK and are posting about how much they want to get back :lol:

nettlebed Jan 25th 2011 5:51 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9128075)
Someone posted Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech in there the other night.

Some people don't even change their user name when they have a change of heart, so they're still called something like GottaLeaveHorribleUK and are posting about how much they want to get back :lol:

There was a really interesting documentary that I picked up on thebox about this speech: if you have a membership there go and search for anything with "Enoch Powell" in the title.

Sally Redux Jan 25th 2011 5:52 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9128073)
Since you ask, the US Constitution defines your rights.

So if the US Constitution had been drawn up by people who told us to put our heads in the oven, that's what we'd have to do.

Fantastic.

Leslie Jan 25th 2011 5:54 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 9128054)
There was a thread a few years ago on this sort of thing, that sort of came to the conclusion that the reason there were more folk posting on the MBTTUK forum from Aus/NZ than the US was that the folk moving that way were more "escapist" in nature and the folk moving this way were more for job and/or family reasons.

Yeah, I think what's hard for people to see is that the UK isn't necessarily to blame for what's ailing them. From what I hear, it's a pretty decent place. So, if they migrate toward something, rather than running away from something, there is at least a marginally better chance for happiness.

elfman Jan 25th 2011 5:55 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9128080)
So if the US Constitution had been drawn up by people who told us to put our heads in the oven, that's what we'd have to do.

Only if it was a well-regulated oven, being necessary for the security of hot dinners.

zargof Jan 25th 2011 5:56 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9128073)
Since you ask, the US Constitution defines your rights.



They kept slaves, yes... but it was never a right. This is one of the reasons why I suggested that people don't fully understand the meaning of the word.

Ian

So, what do you understand as the meaning of rights. Before you answer bear in mind my other post about how the Constitution is great until it becomes inconvienient.

Leslie Jan 25th 2011 5:57 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9128075)
Someone posted Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech in there the other night.

In what context exactly? :confused:

(sits waiting in fear of the inevitable answer but cannot help but to ask)


Some people don't even change their user name when they have a change of heart, so they're still called something like GottaLeaveHorribleUK and are posting about how much they want to get back :lol:
High quality entertainment.

Leslie Jan 25th 2011 5:59 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by elfman (Post 9128091)
Only if it was a well-regulated oven, being necessary for the security of hot dinners.

:rofl:

We're going to have another gun thread. We really can't help ourselves.

ian-mstm Jan 25th 2011 5:59 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9128080)
So if the US Constitution had been drawn up by people who told us to put our heads in the oven, that's what we'd have to do.

Oh please... that sort of idocy doesn't warrant a response.

Ian

SultanOfSwing Jan 25th 2011 6:03 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Leslie66 (Post 9128087)
Yeah, I think what's hard for people to see is that the UK isn't necessarily to blame for what's ailing them. From what I hear, it's a pretty decent place. So, if they migrate toward something, rather than running away from something, there is at least a marginally better chance for happiness.

Understatement of the year ;)

That's where my issue lies I suppose. I moved here to get married to my American fiancee and it was always a compromise. I had nothing in the UK I was trying to get away from so when the novelty wore off I had something to miss.

The worst thing is, I feel bad about being unsettled, almost as if I'm being ungrateful since there are hundreds of people trying to find a way to get here and I did it the easy way.

Leslie Jan 25th 2011 6:07 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 9128114)
Understatement of the year ;)

That's where my issue lies I suppose. I moved here to get married to my American fiancee and it was always a compromise. I had nothing in the UK I was trying to get away from so when the novelty wore off I had something to miss.

The worst thing is, I feel bad about being unsettled, almost as if I'm being ungrateful since there are hundreds of people trying to find a way to get here and I did it the easy way.

Yours is a pretty common situation on BE. I think you're perfectly normal and not the least bit "ungrateful". I would imagine that many people who come here (at least from first world countries) feel exactly the same.

SultanOfSwing Jan 25th 2011 6:10 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by Leslie66 (Post 9128124)
Yours is a pretty common situation on BE. I think you're perfectly normal and not the least bit "ungrateful". I would imagine that many people who come here (at least from first world countries) feel exactly the same.

Maybe ungrateful is the wrong word but I do feel bad sometimes, especially when I'm driving around near where I first lived when I come out here and think it's really not so bad.

I'm never satisfied though, I bring it on myself :lol:

Desdemona Jan 25th 2011 6:13 am

Re: Is this really, that terrible compared to UK?
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 9128114)
Understatement of the year ;)

That's where my issue lies I suppose. I moved here to get married to my American fiancee and it was always a compromise. I had nothing in the UK I was trying to get away from so when the novelty wore off I had something to miss.

The worst thing is, I feel bad about being unsettled, almost as if I'm being ungrateful since there are hundreds of people trying to find a way to get here and I did it the easy way.

The UK is a lovely place, I don't blame you for missing it. The people are lovely, love their happy-go-lucky approach to life. We were there during the 2010 World Cup, so you can imagine the carnival atmosphere in every pub we went to. If there was another country I would choose to live in it would be England. I haven't been to Ireland (just flew over it getting to Heathrow on our Delta flight from from St. Paul's Minneapolis). But I imagine it's no different.


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