Originally Posted by ironporer

No defense required. It was always made known that the (insert favorite silly name here...war on terror, long war, new crusade, great war, islamist fanatical war....) war would be a long one- I believe he has made references to periods of time such as generations long, lasting past his administration and so on (though I am not going to waste time looking for links). It has always ben so- for Christ's sake, the Islamic Fundamentalists have been at it (attacking the Judeo-Christian West) since the late 50's... i'ts about time someone actually decided it was time to fight back.

So if what you want to whine about today in your almost daily whine on life in America, or life with Bush as president is that they are changing the name... I can only think that there are better things to waste your time on. Maybe you could start your own thread...Patrick's daily Whine- it could be kinda like Bob's thread on interesting news topics a while back...and everyone could rush each day to see what atrocities you have been forced to suffer in the previous 24 hours.

Originally Posted by Patrick

Are you on the same planet? You are making absolutly no sense what so ever. I am making a point about changing the name the of the war and you are going on about fighting islamic fundamentmentalists since the 50's, if you want to picky you could say since the middle ages. It is all irrelevant to the thread. Listen closly, I will write slowly so you can understand

last week

"war on terror"

this week

"the long war"


see the difference. We have officially changed the name of the war we are fighting so people will be invogorated and buy back into it.

You are also unaware of what does and does not constitute a whine, pointing out that we live in society which allows people to protest at the funerals of fallen soldiers because of homosexuality is not a whine, it is merely a comment on the country I live in. Pointing out they are changing the name of the war is not a whine, but a comment on the commercialism of everything - including war.

Thanks for playing but this time you didnt win.

Originally Posted by Hiro11

Who pissed in your coffee?

Originally Posted by Patrick

Are you on the same planet? You are making absolutly no sense what so ever. I am making a point about changing the name the of the war and you are going on about fighting islamic fundamentmentalists since the 50's, if you want to picky you could say since the middle ages. It is all irrelevant to the thread. Listen closly, I will write slowly so you can understand

last week

"war on terror"

this week

"the long war"


see the difference. We have officially changed the name of the war we are fighting so people will be invogorated and buy back into it.

You are also unaware of what does and does not constitute a whine, pointing out that we live in society which allows people to protest at the funerals of fallen soldiers because of homosexuality is not a whine, it is merely a comment on the country I live in. Pointing out they are changing the name of the war is not a whine, but a comment on the commercialism of everything - including war.

Thanks for playing but this time you didnt win.

Originally Posted by ironporer

No- I understand your point, but my point is who gives a flying f**k? Officially???? Was that published in the Federal Regiastar or something? FFS- it was a trial balloon...nothing more or less. I personally prefer "Crusade- the second millenium...Kill all the bastards this time"

Do you really think people are so stupid that a name change will re-invogorate it as you say? I don't. I think the people will continue to tire of it, and all the barrage of daily news against it...until another attack like WTC/Madrid/Bali/London occurs close to home and the re-awake. Most of the 'sheep' we have as citizens could care less- as long as they and theirs are well off, and fed.

As for your comment about the soldiers funeral, I find that totally reprehensible- and hope the Kooks burn in a special hell for the pain the cause a hero's family in their moment of loss.

Originally Posted by Patrick

Well if you agree with everything why the hell are you argueing with me? EVERYTHING you just said (apart from the bit about crusade bit) was my point exactly, a name change changes nothing.

This is another case of "its not what you say, its what people hear", for some reason you think I was making a comment on the war, when I was making comment that it doesnt matter what you call it, rebranding it still makes it a war that no-one cares about.

Originally Posted by Patrick

rebranding it still makes it a war that no-one cares about.

Originally Posted by anotherlimey

It would be easier to rebrand you with just a symbol.

Originally Posted by Ray

What about butter!!!!!

Originally Posted by gruffbrown

I can't believe it's not.....

Originally Posted by Ray

No!! I mean up your ass ..when your receiving ..is it a good lubricant...
are some brand better than others...

Originally Posted by gruffbrown

I can't say I've tried Ray If I do and fall off of the table will I land right side up?

Originally Posted by Ray

another one of life's mystery's .... must be somebody on here
who know the answer though...