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Thanks for the feedback. I think I will probably end up having bub no 2 here. Typical me - I don't even know if I can get pregnant yet, why do I always have to think 10 steps ahead??!!
Anyway, it's not really the luxury aspect (although a week in the Sofitel courtesy of my health insurance is very appealing!) it's more that my surgeon is here and I would be with someone completely unknown anywhere else. I could cope with the experience being not so nice but not if that extends to the actual medical care I would receive. I am not a very straightforward case as I have some complications and at the moment I am thinking it's just not worth the risk. I would so love to have all the family around us though. When I had my son there were families in the rooms around us who had so many visitors with balloons and bears and the lot. Everyone also told me not to buy too much as I'd be given so much stuff (luckily I ignored this!) Our case was a little different as we only had a handful of friends visit. That part does make me quite sad but maybe baby no 3 will be in the UK once we are more settled? :eek: Thanks for sharing your experiences. I'll keep you posted on the progress!!!! |
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[QUOTE=emmahafryn;4954872]
I would so love to have all the family around us though. When I had my son there were families in the rooms around us who had so many visitors with balloons and bears and the lot. QUOTE] On the bright side of this one, I had a baby in the UK and was bombarded with fantastic friends & family & also had a baby in Aus without friends & family & the latter was quite nice as it gave me peace and time to get to know my baby without any constant visitors. Did miss having family & friends to share my joy when I was ready though & doing it via webcam is not nearly as much fun. |
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Originally Posted by emmahafryn
(Post 4944429)
... no, it's not the birds and the bees but I was just wondering who'd had babies here and in the UK (or both) and how the experiences compared.
I am in a bit of a quandry at the moment as we'd like another bub but I am not looking forward to going it alone again (the last 15 months with my little one have been very difficult without support) so I basically have to decide whether to have one here or in the UK. This really affects all our other plans for moving back etc. Basically, if I have a new bub here: I will be covered by private med insurance (which I have been paying an arm and a leg for for 12 months to guarantee that I could.) This means private OB, private room and a week at the Sofitel to recover (I kid you not!) I will have my fabbo private surgeon here - had an emergency caesar last time and will be going for an elective caesar on any more children. Would feel much happier about this than the NHS though I realise people have children in Blighty everyday and live to tell the tale! I will get maternity leave and pay (for what it's worth!) from my current job but you are meant to repay any monies if you don't return to work after 12 months. Suppose I could hide out in the UK...!! My mum & Dad could come over for a month to help out when bubs is born but we'd have a few months on our own before we could return to the UK and settle down. This means I'd be in limbo with a new bub & a toddler which is not very appealing. Will have to relocate to the UK with a toddler and a new bub - NOT looking forward to that! I'd have to wait until late 2008 to go back to the UK AND I would be pregnant over Xmas. We are planning to go back to the UK for a month in December and I'm afraid it won't be quite the same if I am up the duff! We are planning to head back at some point in 2008 but are holding off making firm plans until we've been back for a recce in Dec. Trouble is, if I want a baby over here I'd like to be past the 3month stage for the trip (so I don't spend the whole time puking!) so would need to crack on ;) but if I am having it there - I could enjoy Christmas more and move back earlier. I just don't know what to do! It seems silly not to take advantage of the healthcare available to me here but it all just seems to hard at the moment! Help! Em I've worked as a midwife in Aus and the UK, there is little difference between NHS, public care in Aus. Wouldn't be at all kean to have a baby privately in a private hospital here (Aus) though...you would be better off going under a private Obstetrician at a public hospital. The rooms may be nice at Private hosps but the care is questionable and they are extremely understaffed. (in my experience anyway) Hope this helps, Tanya |
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Originally Posted by midwifetanya
(Post 4964253)
Hi,
I've worked as a midwife in Aus and the UK, there is little difference between NHS, public care in Aus. Wouldn't be at all kean to have a baby privately in a private hospital here (Aus) though...you would be better off going under a private Obstetrician at a public hospital. The rooms may be nice at Private hosps but the care is questionable and they are extremely understaffed. (in my experience anyway) Hope this helps, Tanya yes i must say i agree! did look at this thread and ponder a reply but its different looking at it through our eyes............ take the rough with the smooth , same shit different bucket!;) im not comfortable practising at all here, hard to know whether its cause i didnt train here :confused: |
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Wow, that's really interesting.
Can't say I had any problems with the private system though didn't have that much to do with midwives as had private Ob the whole time. Had the usual complaints (as did my firends who went public) about each midwife giving you different advice and them having absolutely no time for me post birth so I went home 2 days after a Caesar! I have heard it's a lot better if you take the Sofitel option as there is one nurse to two patients there. I thought I had made a decision but that's put a while new perspective on it! Are you saying that ob/midwifery care is actually better in the UK from what you have seen? The bears and balloons are so tempting... |
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Originally Posted by midwifetanya
(Post 4964253)
Hi,
I've worked as a midwife in Aus and the UK, there is little difference between NHS, public care in Aus. Wouldn't be at all kean to have a baby privately in a private hospital here (Aus) though...you would be better off going under a private Obstetrician at a public hospital. The rooms may be nice at Private hosps but the care is questionable and they are extremely understaffed. (in my experience anyway) Hope this helps, Tanya Have you worked in a private hospital in Oz? Galba |
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Originally Posted by emmahafryn
(Post 4968825)
Wow, that's really interesting.
Can't say I had any problems with the private system though didn't have that much to do with midwives as had private Ob the whole time. Had the usual complaints (as did my firends who went public) about each midwife giving you different advice and them having absolutely no time for me post birth so I went home 2 days after a Caesar! I have heard it's a lot better if you take the Sofitel option as there is one nurse to two patients there. I thought I had made a decision but that's put a while new perspective on it! Are you saying that ob/midwifery care is actually better in the UK from what you have seen? The bears and balloons are so tempting... ohhhhhhhh thats such a hard question to answer! see i am an english midwife, its only natural for me to feel comfortable in england... its where i trained, its what i know through and through.... as for midwives giving conflicting advice, i believe its how its done, i never ever say to a women, you should do this................ or, even worse, thats wrong do it this way!................ i ALWAYS say this may help, or this is just an idea and make sure the women knows its her baby and she should do what she thinks is right , as babies dont read text books!!!:rofl: and what works for one family will not work for another, but thats me! i know there are loads and loads of midwives who are not like that. in ozzie hospitals i have experienced midwives who are very dictating and i know there are many like this in the uk, but in my personal experience i find it worse here. i personally!! find the lack of postnatal care terrible and the complete lack of support in the home. I am by my own admission an old fashioned midwife! (although im in my thirties!!lol) who works independent of drs......... this doesnt happen in oz as much! i believe you get what you pay for here, its a great system if you want an american style birth, or elective cs, but elective cs are another can of worms and people just dont realise the risks involved. sorry emma im trying so hard to be careful what i write on a public forum, or i could get shot down a million times! in general i dont think oz maternity units are worse per sa, just dont be taken in by the nice rooms and good decorating, like midwife tanya i support her in sayng i would either go for public care, or private obs in public hospital.... for the same reasons - lack of staff I think you should decide whether to have another baby based on you and your family, as in your circumstances when you return home with a new baby because wherever you have a baby the chances are you will be fine, you will always get horror stories about childbirth wherever you are and these stories make me feel sick, for the family, and for the midwife in charge of that family, because it will never ever get forgotten by either person, tragedies haunt all involved for the rest for their lives.......and often the midwife gets forgotten as everyone, quite rightly supports the women. you will be fine emma, concentrate on you! whats right for you, the rest will fall into place. my two pennies worth! dont shoot me down!lol mandxx |
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When I was pregnant with my first my community midwife was an absolute cow. My husband was working away and she told me in no uncertain terms that my husband was a selfish uncaring man for being away while his wife was pregnant. Nosey bitch.
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Was that in Oz or UK???
I must admit, I was glad to get away from the midwives. They were mostly absolutely horrible! One or two were lovely (and I am sure that midwifetanya and mandtooz fall into this category ;)) but I just couldn't work out why some of them were in the job. the conflicting advice is just a nightmare, especially as I was having trouble breastfeeding. "Do it like this", "that's wrong", "why would you be doing it like that?" One even said to me "you are really not getting the hang of this are you?" which I found incredibly helpful! The last straw was when one particularly cantankerous old boot had a go at my husband in the corridor as he was walking the baby up and down to wind him. She demanded to know why we weren't feeding the baby as he was obviously crying because he was hungry. My husband explained that he was actually chock full of milk and had a bit of a bellyache - hence the walking and jiggling him up the corridor. She then came into my room and said the same thing "Why on earth would you let your baby cry when he's hungry?" I left that day. |
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Hi
I had my first in Aus and was pushed into having a C Section (really didn't want one) unnecessarily as they thought the baby was going to be big and started talking about breaking clavicle bones and permanent disablement in one arm - the reality I've since learned is that there is a chance of this with every natural childbirth... Anyroad at 39 weeks pregnant and being told the risks, just whip me in and slice me open, do what you've got to do for healthy baby, baby turned out to only weigh 9lbs 10oz. I too am faced with a similar dilemma of having second here or at home (UK) so have decided to just see what happens, if I have it here I know I'll probably end up having to have another C Section, but the care I received under the Private system was fantastic. Equally if I have it in the UK, I know I'll be able to have a natural delivery. Either way not too fussed, so will see what nature predicts, oh am hoping to go home in the next 12 - 18 months! I carried my daughter all through a Queensland summer and had her at the beginning of March and coped - thank god for swimming pools, cold showers and air conditioning! |
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Originally Posted by emmahafryn
(Post 4973016)
Was that in Oz or UK???
I must admit, I was glad to get away from the midwives. They were mostly absolutely horrible! One or two were lovely (and I am sure that midwifetanya and mandtooz fall into this category ;)) but I just couldn't work out why some of them were in the job. the conflicting advice is just a nightmare, especially as I was having trouble breastfeeding. "Do it like this", "that's wrong", "why would you be doing it like that?" One even said to me "you are really not getting the hang of this are you?" which I found incredibly helpful! The last straw was when one particularly cantankerous old boot had a go at my husband in the corridor as he was walking the baby up and down to wind him. She demanded to know why we weren't feeding the baby as he was obviously crying because he was hungry. My husband explained that he was actually chock full of milk and had a bit of a bellyache - hence the walking and jiggling him up the corridor. She then came into my room and said the same thing "Why on earth would you let your baby cry when he's hungry?" I left that day. On breastfeeding i bottled fed my daughter and one off the midwives was showing a student around the ward she refered to me as " another bottle feeder" i was fuming!!! im giving birth in osbourne park hostipal anyone else had a baby there?? kezx kezx |
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