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Old Jun 10th 2016, 3:49 pm
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What's not so fun is taking your manual tranny car to valet parking and no one knows how to drive it.
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Old Jun 10th 2016, 3:57 pm
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What's not so fun is taking your manual tranny car to valet parking and no one knows how to drive it.
But then alternatively you car is also less likely to be stolen.
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You went looking for with a Golf GTI ?

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Thanks, we originally went looking for the Golf or Jetta Wagon. They only had about 3 GTI's in at the time which were also auto. They did have a Golf R manual, but I thought it was a bit expensive for a small run around.

We are now looking at minivans unfortunately, yuk.
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What's not so fun is taking your manual tranny car to valet parking and no one knows how to drive it.
I don't "do" valet parking, for that and several other reasons.

I took my truck for a service at the local Ford dealer, maybe 11-12 years ago. One of the service assistants took my keys and went outside to drive it in. She reappeared a moment later and exclaimed to one of the other service staff "It's a stickshift!" and handed the keys back.
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What's not so fun is taking your manual tranny car to valet parking and no one knows how to drive it.
i have the same problem with my hybrid and valets.
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I got my manual car back from valet parking once - the gear knob had been rotated by 90 degrees, which takes some serious strength and I have no idea why anyone would apply that much to it. Who knows what damage they did to it, car died from clutch/transmission problems 6 months later.
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But then alternatively you car is also less likely to be stolen.
Correct.

There was a story a few months ago about an armed car-jacking in Florida where the robber threatened the driver out of the vehicle at gun point. The robber then forced the driver back into the vehicle at gun poing because the robber couldn't drive a manual transmission. The driver was forced to take the robber several miles and drop him off.
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they are also more difficult for the police to stop. The technique that they use to spin cars makes the engines in automatics stop. In a manual you just put your foot on the clutch and off you go again.
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i have the same problem with my hybrid and valets.
Hard to get a good valet these days.
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Originally Posted by mrken30
they are also more difficult for the police to stop. The technique that they use to spin cars makes the engines in automatics stop. In a manual you just put your foot on the clutch and off you go again.
That's good to know, but when I was chased by a police car I got away before he had any chance to spin me out.

This is not a joke. .... The officer caught up with me later, when I had parked and was already out of the car. I hadn't actually realised I was being chased.
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As I said before it depends on the car. I bet if you went to a VW dealer looking for a GTI a least half on the lot would be manuals.
Like I said, right where I am, not so much.
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Old Jun 10th 2016, 9:42 pm
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Correct.

There was a story a few months ago about an armed car-jacking in Florida where the robber threatened the driver out of the vehicle at gun point. The robber then forced the driver back into the vehicle at gun poing because the robber couldn't drive a manual transmission. The driver was forced to take the robber several miles and drop him off.
Bit smarter than the chap who robbed a bank not to far away and then went and parked up in the lot behind the bank to go buy stuff at Lowes, with the money he just stole
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That's nearly as bad as one of my former neighbors (now deceased) who went to the drive thru window of the bank and robbed it using her own car. Of course, the car's photo was taken with the license plate. They were waiting for her before she got home.
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Like I said, right where I am, not so much.
Where are we talking about in MA ? The VW dealers I took a look at in Lexington and Worcester had plenty of manuals.

Like I said ....
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Where are we talking about in MA ? The VW dealers I took a look at in Lexington and Worcester had plenty of manuals.

Like I said ....
In between...and the ones I looked at in the last couple of weeks didn't, they had maybe one in but as I said, were able to get them in quickly enough if I was serious.

They're there, but they're not popular and definitely not on the second hand market and definitely not for anyone who doesn't want a sporty hatch and has crap and kids to haul around.

Plus, VW...not exactly a big deal down my way.
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