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tht Mar 24th 2021 3:15 pm

Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
I saw on the news Prince Harry started a new job in silicone valley.

https://www.independent.co.uk/indy10...-b1821724.html

The mention of 2 jobs also makes the visa options even more narrow unless the commission is unpaid.

I had read this story before on what his visa / GC options were:
https://abovethelaw.com/2021/03/harr...migration-law/

The Green card is especially interesting as I recall the requirement to renounce all his titles if he then goes for Citizenship.

SanDiegogirl Mar 24th 2021 3:43 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
Surely he has a Green card by being married to a US citizen and she has already sponsored him.

I have a nephew who married a US citizen and from application to getting the OK and arriving in the US was 4 months - they had very good lawyers.

Harry and Megan married in 2018 and moved to the US in 2020 - plenty of time for her to sponsor and him get his Green card.

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 24th 2021 4:26 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
In 2018 it was taking a year or so, now quite possible, but is does debunk all that being forced out story.

Some suggestion he has actually been working for a few months.

Giantaxe Mar 24th 2021 5:48 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12987344)
In 2018 it was taking a year or so, now quite possible, but is does debunk all that being forced out story.

Some suggestion he has actually been working for a few months.

Yeah, it does add evidence to this all being planned in advance... and that their sojourn in Canada was merely to take advantage of the free security Trudeau's government offered for a few months. Once that expired, they bailed to California.

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 24th 2021 5:55 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
My money would be on some variant of the VWP Express, but I doubt we will ever know.

Lion in Winter Mar 24th 2021 7:43 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
"Job". Not job.

That is all.

steph0scope Mar 24th 2021 8:37 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12987371)
My money would be on some variant of the VWP Express, but I doubt we will ever know.

They went from Canada to California by private plane. I didn’t think private plane passengers were eligible for the VWP?

My money is on a CR-1. There was plenty of time to get that done before they moved. When did DCF stop in London?

tht Mar 24th 2021 8:54 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by steph0scope (Post 12987429)
They went from Canada to California by private plane. I didn’t think private plane passengers were eligible for the VWP?

My money is on a CR-1. There was plenty of time to get that done before they moved. When did DCF stop in London?

I would not be surprised if there were “special channels”..to process whatever it was, if you read the second link thought it talks about some pretty complex tax implication of a GC.

SanDiegogirl Mar 25th 2021 5:29 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by steph0scope (Post 12987429)
They went from Canada to California by private plane. I didn’t think private plane passengers were eligible for the VWP?

My money is on a CR-1. There was plenty of time to get that done before they moved. When did DCF stop in London?

Whether or not the DCF was open is irrelevant I should think...... in their positions they would have had special routes to expedite any application for CR-1 they made.
She was living practically living in the UK prior to the marriage so must have had special dispensation for that too.

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 25th 2021 5:38 pm

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She did go through the UK process I remember that being mentioned at the time, UK process is super quick anyway.

DCF is still available for exceptional circumstances, a year? since London had it otherwise, Canada only had it for exceptional circumstances.

destone Mar 25th 2021 6:15 pm

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We all know that the White House/US Embassies/DHS/CBP/USCIS can fast-track green cards for high profile personnels who are eligible otherwise (e.g. married to a US citizen). Heck, even Trump at the time brought over Melania's parents (who are USCs now) in some mysterious ways.

lansbury Mar 25th 2021 6:36 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
The Christmas before I retired I attended a party at the US Embassy. During the course of a conversation it was made very clear to me that when I wanted my visa all I had to do was call the person I was talking to, and I could attend the Embassy next day with my passport and have the visa put in it. Concerned about future complications at the US end if I did that, I went the normal route. But if that offer was made to me, I have no doubt Harry was made one he didn't refuse.

SanDiegogirl Mar 25th 2021 7:21 pm

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Originally Posted by destone (Post 12987706)
We all know that the White House/US Embassies/DHS/CBP/USCIS can fast-track green cards for high profile personnels who are eligible otherwise (e.g. married to a US citizen). Heck, even Trump at the time brought over Melania's parents (who are USCs now) in some mysterious ways.

There was no mysterious way....Melania sponsored them......

SanDiegogirl Mar 25th 2021 7:22 pm

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12987720)
The Christmas before I retired I attended a party at the US Embassy. During the course of a conversation it was made very clear to me that when I wanted my visa all I had to do was call the person I was talking to, and I could attend the Embassy next day with my passport and have the visa put in it. Concerned about future complications at the US end if I did that, I went the normal route. But if that offer was made to me, I have no doubt Harry was made one he didn't refuse.


Exactly.... it's not what you know but who you know.....

Lion in Winter Mar 25th 2021 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12987720)
The Christmas before I retired I attended a party at the US Embassy. During the course of a conversation it was made very clear to me that when I wanted my visa all I had to do was call the person I was talking to, and I could attend the Embassy next day with my passport and have the visa put in it. Concerned about future complications at the US end if I did that, I went the normal route. But if that offer was made to me, I have no doubt Harry was made one he didn't refuse.


You're a prince? Now you tell us...

destone Mar 25th 2021 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12987738)
There was no mysterious way....Melania sponsored them......

As per https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/n...-citizens.html "[...] there has been a lack of clarity about when or how the couple [Melania's parents] received green cards".


excpomea Mar 26th 2021 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by destone (Post 12987749)
As per https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/n...-citizens.html "[...] there has been a lack of clarity about when or how the couple [Melania's parents] received green cards".

Yep, two systems of immigration. Those with power and those without.


Jerseygirl Mar 26th 2021 2:22 pm

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 12987720)
The Christmas before I retired I attended a party at the US Embassy. During the course of a conversation it was made very clear to me that when I wanted my visa all I had to do was call the person I was talking to, and I could attend the Embassy next day with my passport and have the visa put in it. Concerned about future complications at the US end if I did that, I went the normal route. But if that offer was made to me, I have no doubt Harry was made one he didn't refuse.


I had a similar conversation with someone re a Green Card.

Rete Mar 26th 2021 2:27 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12987367)
Yeah, it does add evidence to this all being planned in advance... and that their sojourn in Canada was merely to take advantage of the free security Trudeau's government offered for a few months. Once that expired, they bailed to California.

It also meant inspection in Canada instead of at the POE in the US. With tighter security from Canada, much less hassle for them when going through secondary.

Unlike Pamela Anderson, they didn't want publicity at that point in their move.

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 26th 2021 8:55 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
Money seems to be on an O1.

Jerseygirl Mar 26th 2021 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12988190)
Money seems to be on an O1.

What a joke!! Rent a title. :D

BEVS Mar 26th 2021 9:30 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12988190)
Money seems to be on an O1.

This?

"An O visa is a classification of non-immigrant temporary worker visa granted by the United States to an alien "who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics"

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 26th 2021 11:59 pm

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12988198)
This?

"An O visa is a classification of non-immigrant temporary worker visa granted by the United States to an alien "who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics"

That is the one, I could see how he could get it. Not quite a demanding as that may suggest.

Giantaxe Mar 27th 2021 12:23 am

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12988229)
That is the one, I could see how he could get it. Not quite a demanding as that may suggest.

Because you got one?

scrubbedexpat099 Mar 27th 2021 12:24 am

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Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12988234)
Because you got one?

Not that easy, but I know a few people who did, so I can see how a Lawyer can put together a good case.

lizzyq Mar 27th 2021 3:51 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12988198)
This?

"An O visa is a classification of non-immigrant temporary worker visa granted by the United States to an alien "who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics"


Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12988229)
That is the one, I could see how he could get it. Not quite a demanding as that may suggest.


Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12988234)
Because you got one?

That's what steveq started out with 7 years ago, now we have our green cards and are counting down the time to be able to apply to naturalize.

steph0scope Mar 27th 2021 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by destone (Post 12987749)
As per https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/n...-citizens.html "[...] there has been a lack of clarity about when or how the couple [Melania's parents] received green cards".

So because a journalist (who probably doesn’t understand how the process works and probably also hasn’t been through it) said so, it must be true? There’s nothing strange about a naturalized citizen petitioning their parents. It’s not as if Melania couldn’t afford it. It’s a very simple process. Not sure why anyone would think there was anything suspicious about it.

Giantaxe Mar 27th 2021 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by steph0scope (Post 12988386)
So because a journalist (who probably doesn’t understand how the process works and probably also hasn’t been through it) said so, it must be true? There’s nothing strange about a naturalized citizen petitioning their parents. It’s not as if Melania couldn’t afford it. It’s a very simple process. Not sure why anyone would think there was anything suspicious about it.

The thrust of that article, one paragraph aside, is the hypocrisy of Trump decrying "chain migration" when that was exactly what his wife was doing.

tht May 8th 2021 1:01 pm

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Not what I would consider a creditable source but:

“While it is not know how Harry has stayed in the US without permanent US citizenship, it is believed due to his royal status, he probably has an A1 visa which is reserved for "diplomats and government officials".Earlier this month, The Times reported while Harry is eligible to become a permanent US resident, he will not pursue residency and citizenship in the country.

A royal source said: "The Duke has not made an application for dual citizenship, and I don't think he will apply for a green card at any point."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...s-royal-family

scrubbedexpat099 May 8th 2021 1:29 pm

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He would have to go GC first before US Citizenship

But I can see an A1 is possible but did not think it came with work authorisation.

However it does come with Diplomatic Immunity of some sort.

How would he be paid?

tht May 8th 2021 1:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 13003844)
He would have to go GC first before US Citizenship

But I can see an A1 is possible but did not think it came with work authorisation.

However it does come with Diplomatic Immunity of some sort.

How would he be paid?

Should be able to rule out the H1b, I don’t think he went to university, and his role is not listed:

https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Be...ity=&year=2020

https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Be...ity=&year=2021

scrubbedexpat099 May 8th 2021 1:48 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
He seems to be work authorised so H and L are out.

A1 would seem to apply if he was a dependent? That seems to get work authorisation.

tht May 8th 2021 1:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 13003853)
He seems to be work authorised so H and L are out.

A1 would seem to apply if he was a dependent? That seems to get work authorisation.

That does not seem to fit, unless the Queen asked him to do everything he is doing out here for her government?

To qualify for an A-1 or A-2 visa, you must be traveling to the United States on behalf of your national government to engage solely in official activities for that government.”

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...diplomats.html

scrubbedexpat099 May 8th 2021 2:01 pm

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The more I look at it the less likely an A would apply.

Jerseygirl May 8th 2021 2:09 pm

Re: Prince Harry's new Job - what visa ?
 
I reckon he has a spousal visa. They stayed in Canada until the visa was through.


Rete May 8th 2021 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13003867)
I reckon he has a spousal visa. They stayed in Canada until the visa was through.


I go with you on this, JG. As they are celebrities, I'm sure that they bypassed the normal wait time for the Immediate Relative Visa (CR-1 in his case as they were married less than 2 years). He will be eligible to apply for naturalization in 2 years or so since he has been here since last 2020.

tht May 8th 2021 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 13003864)
The more I look at it the less likely an A would apply.

Pretty terrible reporting to no even look at the basics of a visa before suggesting it.

I think asylum can be ruled out because he has since traveled back to the UK multiple times.

Would the Royals even be considered a “social group”?

My guess is it’s not a usual status, and maybe something granted by executive order or by some other alternate process.


“Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:
  • Race
  • Religion
  • Nationality
  • Membership in a particular social group
  • Political opinion


christmasoompa May 8th 2021 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 13003867)
I reckon he has a spousal visa. They stayed in Canada until the visa was through.

I think so too. Would have been easy to have applied from the UK when they made their minds up about leaving, and just waited out the process in Canada.

tht May 8th 2021 2:25 pm

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13003871)
I think so too. Would have been easy to have applied from the UK when they made their minds up about leaving, and just waited out the process in Canada.

The one thing that backs this up is the comment about being cut off financially by the Royals, that could have been the way they avoid all the tax exposure with him becoming US tax resident.

Although that would directly contradict:

A royal source said: "The Duke has not made an application for dual citizenship, and I don't think he will apply for a green card at any point."

Unless they are being clever with words because he already has a green card, so he has no need to apply for one.

Jerseygirl May 8th 2021 2:33 pm

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Originally Posted by tht (Post 13003876)
The one thing that backs this up is the comment about being cut off financially by the Royals, that could have been the way they avoid all the tax exposure with him becoming US tax resident.

Although that would directly contradict:

A royal source said: "The Duke has not made an application for dual citizenship, and I don't think he will apply for a green card at any point."

Unless they are being clever with words because he already has a green card, so he has no need to apply for one.

The Express is no better than the National Enquirer. How on earth can they speculate about whether or not Haz has made an application for US citizenship…when he is not yet eligible to do so?

Their US tax returns should be interesting.


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