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Old William Nov 26th 2006 7:11 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
As he'd shot a cop the day before I wasn't expecting much trigger discipline there ;)

I think it's fair to say he was not going to be seeing the courtroom.

Lord Lionheart Nov 26th 2006 9:26 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Sally
Serves him right for going to a strip joint on his wedding day, the dirty bastard.

Yeah, get your panties in a bunch about some people getting removed from a plane for security reasons, yet a guy going to a strip joint for a bachelor party deserves to be shot dead( even if you are joking :confused: ).
Truly bizarre logic and priorities

Dogbyte Nov 26th 2006 9:36 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey
As he'd shot a cop the day before I wasn't expecting much trigger discipline there ;)

that will teach them to tip the lap dancer

DEE_UK Nov 27th 2006 1:52 am

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Sally
Serves him right for going to a strip joint on his wedding day, the dirty bastard.

What a heartless comment... :(

Sarah Nov 27th 2006 9:18 am

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Ok, so the circumstances surrounding the case sound a bit ropey and the car did hit a police officer and a police car, but does anyone else think that maybe their reactions were slightly excessive.......if they want to be GI Joe send them to Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6184948.stm

First thing I thought was that maybe the black guys inside the car that got shot could've been a bit drunk which may have led to them bumping the car in front. Still, lots of fuzzy details here that need to be straightened out which, lets face it might never happen. I'd like to know what they actually did to prompt 50 shots being fired.
That poor wife-to-be of his, can you imagine what she must be going through? Heartbreaking.
I wish Al Sharpton would get his nose out of it as well, he's not exactly known for making these situations any better.

Thydney Nov 27th 2006 10:53 am

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by jen_andreson
Fair enough, then my bad. I thought the legislation in NY had changed following the incident a few years ago, but it must have been chatter and not passed.

http://www.officer.com/article/artic...ion=1&id=28869


Your bad what?

Silly Sod Nov 27th 2006 11:50 am

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I wonder if everybody would be waiting for more details if it was some white brit ex-pat coming out of a strip club on his stag night that was shot while un-armed. 50 rounds? Seems a bit excessive regardless of the situation, unless the guy was carrying a rocket launcher.

jen_andreson Nov 27th 2006 12:02 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Thydney
Your bad what?

Bad comment, as in incorrect.

I had suggested that the cops should have shot once in the arm or leg, as per legislation that was proposed in NY following the last controversial shooting. However, the legislation did not pass as I thought it did. Therefore, the policy remains 'shoot to stop' or 'aim at the centre', as Old William pointed out is standard procedure.

Titchski Nov 27th 2006 12:14 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Sally
Serves him right for going to a strip joint on his wedding day, the dirty bastard.

I went to a strip club on my stag night... I got into "an argument" with the bar staff over paying $8.00 for a ****ing warm bottle of Heineken so I took my blow up sheep and left after 10 minutes. :o

Old William Nov 27th 2006 12:46 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Titchski
I went to a strip club on my stag night... I got into "an argument" with the bar staff over paying $8.00 for a ****ing warm bottle of Heineken so I took my blow up sheep and left after 10 minutes. :o

Are you sure you didnt mean you took your blow up sheep and came after 10 minutes?

Titchski Nov 27th 2006 12:50 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Old William
Are you sure you didnt mean you took your blow up sheep and came after 10 minutes?

10 minutes? I'd be on to cigarette number 2 by then :eek:

Old William Nov 27th 2006 12:55 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Titchski
10 minutes? I'd be on to cigarette number 2 by then :eek:

LOL. And half way to the pub.

Thydney Nov 27th 2006 2:06 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 
Be fair two didn't shoot and one shot 31 times :eek: so the other two had 19 shots between them sounds like one over reacted the others just emptied their guns :eek:

penguinsix Nov 27th 2006 4:39 pm

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The NYT had a good explanation as to what might have happened:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/ny...rtner=homepage

"It is known in police parlance as “contagious shooting” — gunfire that spreads among officers who believe that they, or their colleagues, are facing a threat. It spreads like germs, like laughter, or fear. An officer fires, so his colleagues do, too...."


Details will trickle in...and get used and abused by both sides I suspect.

Silly Sod Nov 27th 2006 7:56 pm

Re: Over reaction ??
 

Originally Posted by Thydney
Be fair two didn't shoot and one shot 31 times :eek: so the other two had 19 shots between them sounds like one over reacted the others just emptied their guns :eek:

A fair assesement. Unfortunately, whoever over reacted, one or four doesn't matter to the dead guys family. Can't help wondering though if the cop who fired 31 rounds had to reload at some point, or more than once unless he had something with a bannana clip. In which case, if he did reload, surely there is the time to cool off and assess the situation with regards to officer safety. As people have said though, the truth will dribble out and in two months it will be forgotten. Nobody will be charged and race relations will take yet another step backward.


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