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Originally Posted by Big D
Did you not read my post? Yes i read it - my point was that this is a leak - unconfirmed and as so different from the previous version that i'm not sure i believe it until confirmed - which i'm sure will come in time
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Nothing new, though - the public get told what they want us to hear so that no-one has to take the rap for mistakes of gargantuan proportions such as this.
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
I think it's a bloody disgrace that in a supposedly democratic country there could be a cover-up of these proportions.
Nothing new, though - the public get told what they want us to hear so that no-one has to take the rap for mistakes of gargantuan proportions such as this.
Nothing new, though - the public get told what they want us to hear so that no-one has to take the rap for mistakes of gargantuan proportions such as this.
If it turns out to be true? But if it was a cover up why not fabricate that he WAS linked to the bombings??
Until we get the answer from the investigation this is all really speculation and out of context. If it turns out to be true it is unlikely to be covered up now anyway - then we can say what a bloody disgrace this was.
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Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
It's an article on a leak. It's not the gosple truth...yet.
Who's to know if this version is any more reliable than versions we've heard before?
Who's to know if this version is any more reliable than versions we've heard before?
Here's an eye witness account just after it happened- a lot different to that reported in the 'leak'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706913.stm
We'll just have to wait for the results of the investigation.
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Originally Posted by Wintersong
I think it's a bloody disgrace that in a supposedly democratic country there could be a cover-up of these proportions.
Nothing new, though - the public get told what they want us to hear so that no-one has to take the rap for mistakes of gargantuan proportions such as this.
Nothing new, though - the public get told what they want us to hear so that no-one has to take the rap for mistakes of gargantuan proportions such as this.
Democratic or not, there have always been secret operations in the UK - bits and pieces of them come out from time to time, and who knows what of the truth we get, if any. Wag the dog.
The Brazilian is still dead though. Now that I'm a parent I can imagine what his mother feels.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Democratic or not, there have always been secret operations in the UK .
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Originally Posted by Ray
.The News of the World has the pulse of the nation...
You can shoot me now.
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And here we have it. Ive said it before and I'll say it again...The police had seconds to make a life or death decision while everyone else has plenty of time to pour over what may or may not have happened. Sometimes shit happens when you are dealing with these kind of scenarios. But I have an idea...lets forget all the death, carnage and terror caused by the terrorists and instead whip up a frenzy over what *may* have been a bad call by the police under extreme circumstances caused by the terrorists. Of course, no-one on here now knows or ever will know what actually occured.
Witnesses are notoriously bad at remembering what happens in a heartbeat just moments later, let alone weeks later. And that picture? Shows a body - dead or not - laying on the floor of a carriage. Nothing more, nothing less.
Witnesses are notoriously bad at remembering what happens in a heartbeat just moments later, let alone weeks later. And that picture? Shows a body - dead or not - laying on the floor of a carriage. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Originally Posted by Taffyles
Agreed.
Here's an eye witness account just after it happened- a lot different to that reported in the 'leak'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706913.stm
We'll just have to wait for the results of the investigation.
Here's an eye witness account just after it happened- a lot different to that reported in the 'leak'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706913.stm
We'll just have to wait for the results of the investigation.
"He [the suspect] had a baseball cap on and quite a sort of thickish coat - it was a coat you'd wear in winter, sort of like a padded jacket"
Somewhat different to what witnesses are now saying.
Arrive on scene to an accident surrounded by witnesses..ask 4 different people what just happened and get 4 very different answers. Believe me witnesses are very unreliable.
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" Believe me witnesses are very unreliable.
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The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
The Brazilian electrician mistakenly killed by police in the aftermath of the second London bombings was being restrained by an officer before he was shot eight times as he was sitting on a Tube train, it emerged tonight.
... and more.
Let the 'it was his own fault for running', 'he shouldn't have been wearing a big coat', 'he shouldn't have been in the country' posts begin!
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Originally Posted by CarlM
Oh well, terrible shame and all that. But 'accidents' will happen..
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I should add, "accidents" happen when my four year old doesn't make it in time to the toilet.....not an innocent man being shot 8 times.
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Instead of wasting a teardrop over this criminal, how about some sympathy for the honest, law abiding people who had their lives ruined in the original bombings ?
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
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Originally Posted by doctor scrumpy
Instead of wasting a teardrop over this criminal, how about some sympathy for the honest, law abiding people who had their lives ruined in the original bombings ?
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
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What kind of criminal warrants being restrained and then 8 shots poured into him? Oh yes, the one that overstayed his visa....that'll show 'em!
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Originally Posted by doctor scrumpy
Instead of wasting a teardrop over this criminal, how about some sympathy for the honest, law abiding people who had their lives ruined in the original bombings ?
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
The government should send the bill for the bullets to the family of the dead man with the message " Prompt payment appreciated".
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