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Old Jan 25th 2012, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by Octang Frye View Post
Don't use the airport? The airports are private corporations.
What kind of a moron calls the police to stop intruders in their house? The police: only minutes away when seconds count. And then they'll shoot your dog for good measure.

The argument is asinine and a straw man. No Republican that I know of is calling for the abolition of taxes. We just don't want to pay an inordinate amount, nor do we want to promote waste, bloat, inefficiency or largesse.

I'm sure you know that if a government entity doesn't spend its entire budget, it will have it reduced the following year. Which is why they spend, spend, spend on ridiculous things.

As has already been mentioned, most airports in the U.S. are public and taxpayer paid for. Add to that the air traffic controllers who are federal employees. How about the FAA? Federal. Without government involvement there likely would not be any airports.
As for taxes, pretty much every Republican wants less of them. Most want zero tax on capital gains and dividends such as make up Romney's entire income and the bulk of income for CEO's. Then they want to cut programs to offset the lack of revenue.

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Old Jan 25th 2012, 2:33 am
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I listened to Ari Fleischer comment before the SOTU speech that Obama is the most divisive President ever. I guess he missed the part where Republicans made it clear from the day after Obama was elected that their goal was to get the White House back, FOX news the republican mouthpiece labeling him Hitler, Socialist, Communist etc, and then Congress set about their divisive actions to prevent him from accomplishing anything, even if it wrecked the economy along the way. ****ing Republicans.

I'm liking the SOTU address. He is laying out a challenge to the Repubs and also putting the lie to much of what the Repubs had criticized him for.

Full text here. http://thepage.time.com/2012/01/24/p...union-address/

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Old Jan 25th 2012, 3:26 am
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I watched the SOTU on PBS. David Brooks called it Obama's best SOTU by some ways.

On the other hand and much more surprising is the view of uber Obama fanboy Andrew Sullivan who seems to think it was a steaming bag of shit.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....n-address.html
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G1antaxe, the perfect time is when you can implement what you believe ideologically without the care of being reelected. If he made a move in his first term, it would be political folly, as the Dems learned with the ridiculous "Assault Weapons Ban". That cost them the house and the senate in the 90s.

And if you don't think he - and Kagan et al - don't have this on their agenda, you're blind.

Recounting a March 30 meeting between gun-control nut Sarah Brady, her husband Jim and White House Press secretary Jay Carney, The Post reports:

During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.

“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

Look at the Fast and Furious scandal, whereby the government/ATF were illegally arming the Mexican drug cartels. Emails from inside the Department of Justice appear to indicate Obama administration officials were plotting to use the consequences of Operation Fast and Furious to further a gun-control agenda.

The only possible brakes this time will be from Democrats who don't want to pay the political price for course of action. I am not very optimistic.
lmao.

By this "logic", when second-term Bush in 2006/7 had a very similar program called "Operation Wide Receiver" he must have been plotting to "take our guns away". Seriously, you need to put down the NRA propaganda and come up with some better arguments. The most you can say is that "Fast and Furious" makes the Obama ATF look incompetent and Holder look on sticky ground in what he told Congress about the operation. And even assuming the bizarre assertion that Obama does indeed want to disarm the US, where are the 60 Senate votes coming from?? You do understand the rules of the Senate... don't you?

Oh, and you haven't replied yet on why Republican candidates bar one don't want to cut the military.

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I watched the SOTU on PBS. David Brooks called it Obama's best SOTU by some ways.

On the other hand and much more surprising is the view of uber Obama fanboy Andrew Sullivan who seems to think it was a steaming bag of shit.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....n-address.html
Coincidentally that is what I thought of his review.

Now Mitch Daniels is giving the Republican rebuttal. It is only a few minutes in and he is so boring that I want to take a nap. Not to mention that it ignores the entire SOTU.
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Coincidentally that is what I thought of his review.

Now Mitch Daniels is giving the Republican rebuttal. It is only a few minutes in and he is so boring that I want to take a nap.
I would hate to do the rebuttal. Never going to be anything but dull.

I bet he thinks that phrase "trickle down government" is a ****ing zinger. You could see him swell.
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I would hate to do the rebuttal. Never going to be anything but dull.

I bet he thinks that phrase "trickle down government" is a ****ing zinger. You could see him swell.
Now he is just plain telling lies. Typical Republican. The only thing he has said so far that I agree with is that millionaires should not be collecting Social Security or receiving Medicare. Now he accuses Obama of dividing the country. What the ****? Has he not been paying attention to the actions of his fellow Republicans?

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Coincidentally that is what I thought of his review.

Now Mitch Daniels is giving the Republican rebuttal. It is only a few minutes in and he is so boring that I want to take a nap. Not to mention that it ignores the entire SOTU.
Yah, he was often talked about as the person who could stop Romney by many influential republicans, yawn.
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Yah, he was often talked about as the person who could stop Romney by many influential republicans, yawn.
A complete bore. Christ on a bike is there no one in the Republican party worth a shit?
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A complete bore. Christ on a bike is there no one in the Republican party worth a shit?
Chris Christie would make the party interesting as he tells off anyone that asks a question that he doesn't want to answer.
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Chris Christie would make the party interesting as he tells off anyone that asks a question that he doesn't want to answer.
That's a Jersey boy for you.

Actually kind of like Gingrich in that respect but with a nicer personality.
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Both Obama in the SOTU and Daniels did something that bothers me greatly mind. And that was go on some pissy rant about China, sending jobs overseas and not paying taxes on money outside the US - and yet both gushed like teenage girls about Steve Jobs and Apple as an example of American exceptionalism. Huh? 1/2 million jobs overseas and $50 billion deliberately not in the US. Not quite a model I'd go for personally.

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Both Obama in the SOTU and Daniels did something that bothers me greatly mind. And that was go on some pissy rant about China, sending jobs overseas and not paying taxes on money outside the UK - and yet both gushed like teenage girls about Steve Jobs and Apple as an example of American exceptionalism. Huh? 1/2 million jobs overseas and $50 billion deliberately not in the US. Not quite a model I'd go for personally.
Read a good article about Apple in China. Not the kind of working environment we want in the U.S.

An example: A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.

The whole article has some interesting information, not just about Apple itself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/bu...pagewanted=all
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That's a Jersey boy for you.

Actually kind of like Gingrich in that respect but with a nicer personality.
That's not difficult.
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That's not difficult.
Likely the easiest thing there is.
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