Nutmegger

Well, now we all know just what a pleasant person you are.

katzgar

pleasant has nothing to do with it. moving there was the first time I had to have a car inspection to get car insurance. The first time I ever saw counterfeit money. The first time I heard of a Venezuelan start a "dentist practice" in a storage unit. The first time I ever saw people buy those little storage sheds that they have in front of home depot and put them in the back yard as rental units for people. The first time I ever saw occasional reports on TV about animals that were sacrificed being found. S. Florida is a special place with flea markets full of chinese crap/knock offs. Be careful at traffic lights in S. Florida in case someone runs out and lays in front of your stopped car and then claims you hit them. oh yes lets not forget the occasional pill mill raids by the feds. Be careful in restaurants, food sourcing is really......creative. Over time things will be civilized but the huge number of immigrants has swamped S. Florida just now.

Nutmegger

The fact that you apparently don't get out much still doesn't make it acceptable to ridicule other people.

katzgar

You are losing focus can you prove anything I said is wrong

jeepster

We use the word "redneck" with impunity yet when someone criticizes people of color we get all defensive. Keep in mind that most so-called rednecks have Scot-Irish/English last names.

Bob

A redneck isn't a race though... :/

Pulaski

Jeepster makes a fair point though. You can lob all sorts of derogatory comments at a white person and nobody bats an eyelid, but make even a well reasoned and objective criticism of a "minority" and it is immediately labled as "racism".

katzgar

you are confusing fact with ridicule...shame. obviously not all hispanics are bad. The part about the storage sheds and animal sacrifice is actually a little Haiti thing. do you suppose all haitian immigrants are doing this? obviously not. Step back and take a deep breath you are hyper ventilating.

Nutek

That's not strictly true...

Nutmegger

I still find it inappropriate to talk back to people in gibberish and consider it ridicule.

I did not think that the OP was talking of color, but was disparaging the lack of facility with the English language of immigrants.

I would like to think that you don't consider that making fun of someone's inability to express themselves in English by talking back to them in a silly accent is a "well reasoned and objective criticism."

Pulaski

Certainly not, but you quoted a full block of eight lines of Katzgar's post where he made statements about people living in garden sheds, rudimentary dental practicea, and animal sacrifice. I see those as objective criticims, and are unacceptable in the US whether you are brown, black, white, or green with blue spots.

Nutmegger

That was not what I responded to in the initial exchange, if you take a look back. After I expressed my distaste for his handling of the language situation, he came back with the litany of dislikes as justification for having spoken to people in such a way. I don't think that the bad behavior he cites justifies his own bad behavior. I responded that if this was the first time he had come across such things as he listed, then he hadn't seen much of the world. Santeria has been around forever -- sacrifices are frequently found in the Bronx and Brooklyn, and yes, even CT. Immigrants from time immemorial have lived in horrible circumstances and there have always been people ready to exploit their need and yes, rent them space in a garden shed. There's always someone ready to offer cut price medical services without a license -- the papers have stories every day, it's not limited to the immigrant community. Do all these admittedly horrible things justify ridiculing someone who may or may not have any connection to them?

Pulaski

I was responding to post #48, including the (entire) post that you quoted, that's all. When you quoted his entire post I would assume you were referring to the entire post. That all, it's not worth a lengthy debate about what either of us "meant".

Nutmegger

Sigh . . . the full story of the exchange starts at #45 and needs to be taken in context.

katzgar

such things may well happen elsewhere but that doesnt make them right or smart. We try to avoid dumping 5G buckets of human waste into S. Floridas canals which the rented sheds necessitate. We consider that a bad thing. saying something is ok because others do it is absurd.