Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
#46
Mr. Grumpy
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
The affected areas have already been bleached (several times) and are not places that can be painted (bathroom tile, etc). The boarding under the kitchen sink should have been replaced from the get-go, but they refused because (according to them) it would be too difficult to recut plywood to fit in the same spot. So they just left it there.
~ Jenney
~ Jenney
#48
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
Why not (unless the sealant needs replacing)...it builds up on the grout and sealant just like dirt builds up around the house if it's not cleaned.
I agree with BritGuyTN...it sounds like mildew. We get it in our shower...I spray bleach on it...rinse it and hey presto. Of course if it's been left to build up some elbow grease may be required.
I agree with BritGuyTN...it sounds like mildew. We get it in our shower...I spray bleach on it...rinse it and hey presto. Of course if it's been left to build up some elbow grease may be required.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Jan 29th 2008 at 7:52 am.
#49
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
So while we’ll still have the same rent increase, at least now we’re getting more for our money. A newer (even if not brand-new) washing machine means no more extra rinse-and-spin cycles, which means a reduction in energy and water usage, and lower utility bills – yay!
You pay your own water/sewer? In our state, it's customary for the landlord to pay it, so I am always up on those leaking toilets.. they cost *me* money.
You could take to including a little wish list with your rent check every month; start documenting a request to have the board under the sink replaced. I get a little love note almost every month from the aforementioned tenant. She wears me down and eventually gets her wishes.
#50
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
In the bathroom, the best way I can describe it is that the black stuff (mold, mildew, whatever) seeps from behind the tile and "stains" the grout around the perimeter where the tub meets the tiled shower wall. Scrubbing the black stuff does absolutely nothing. It does not rub off and bleach, etc does nothing. I've tried all sorts of cleaners and nothing works, trust me. The only way to get rid of it is to literally rip it out and regrout it.
Ideally, the entire shower should be retiled, because we believe that there are small perforations in the tile grout and water/moisture constantly gets in there. But I highly doubt they'll be willing to retile, because it would also involve somehow replacing the wall behind the tile (which is probably black with mold) and I don't think they'd want to pay to do that. And we certainly can't afford to do it ourselves.
This is a completely different matter from the kitchen sink. We asked them to replace the boarding underneath but they refused for the reasons I'd mentioned previously.
~ Jenney
Ideally, the entire shower should be retiled, because we believe that there are small perforations in the tile grout and water/moisture constantly gets in there. But I highly doubt they'll be willing to retile, because it would also involve somehow replacing the wall behind the tile (which is probably black with mold) and I don't think they'd want to pay to do that. And we certainly can't afford to do it ourselves.
This is a completely different matter from the kitchen sink. We asked them to replace the boarding underneath but they refused for the reasons I'd mentioned previously.
~ Jenney
#51
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
In the bathroom, the best way I can describe it is that the black stuff (mold, mildew, whatever) seeps from behind the tile and "stains" the grout around the perimeter where the tub meets the tiled shower wall. Scrubbing the black stuff does absolutely nothing. It does not rub off and bleach, etc does nothing. I've tried all sorts of cleaners and nothing works, trust me. The only way to get rid of it is to literally rip it out and regrout it.
Ideally, the entire shower should be retiled, because we believe that there are small perforations in the tile grout and water/moisture constantly gets in there. But I highly doubt they'll be willing to retile, because it would also involve somehow replacing the wall behind the tile (which is probably black with mold) and I don't think they'd want to pay to do that. And we certainly can't afford to do it ourselves.
This is a completely different matter from the kitchen sink. We asked them to replace the boarding underneath but they refused for the reasons I'd mentioned previously.
~ Jenney
Ideally, the entire shower should be retiled, because we believe that there are small perforations in the tile grout and water/moisture constantly gets in there. But I highly doubt they'll be willing to retile, because it would also involve somehow replacing the wall behind the tile (which is probably black with mold) and I don't think they'd want to pay to do that. And we certainly can't afford to do it ourselves.
This is a completely different matter from the kitchen sink. We asked them to replace the boarding underneath but they refused for the reasons I'd mentioned previously.
~ Jenney
You can put sealant on the tile grout, not expensive, perhaps you could give that a try. And I personally would put caulk where the tub meets the tile, rather than grout. That might help.
#52
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
because that's why you pay rent, it's the landlords responsibility to maintain the upkeep of the gaff...
#53
Mr. Grumpy
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
grime on the grout/caulk/sealant is definitely the responsibility of the tenant since its caused by the tenant
if its all peeling off etc then the landlord needs to replace it
i'm not coming out to clean the kitchen stove FFS
#54
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
cleaning is certainly NOT the responsibility of the landlord
grime on the grout/caulk/sealant is definitely the responsibility of the tenant since its caused by the tenant
if its all peeling off etc then the landlord needs to replace it
i'm not coming out to clean the kitchen stove FFS
grime on the grout/caulk/sealant is definitely the responsibility of the tenant since its caused by the tenant
if its all peeling off etc then the landlord needs to replace it
i'm not coming out to clean the kitchen stove FFS
#55
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
cleaning is certainly NOT the responsibility of the landlord
grime on the grout/caulk/sealant is definitely the responsibility of the tenant since its caused by the tenant
if its all peeling off etc then the landlord needs to replace it
i'm not coming out to clean the kitchen stove FFS
grime on the grout/caulk/sealant is definitely the responsibility of the tenant since its caused by the tenant
if its all peeling off etc then the landlord needs to replace it
i'm not coming out to clean the kitchen stove FFS
If the mold is seeping from BEHIND the grout, and cannot be cleaned - it's not sealed tight to the tub. I had this problem.
Technically, I'd say the landlord should remove the stained grout at the tub rim, and caulk the thing. Solved the problem for me. But actually, I did it myself, rather than wait for the landlord.
Of course there is a funny (now, after many years) nightmare story about me and the caulk... didn't realize you needed a caulking gun... gave it a good squeeze...
#56
Mr. Grumpy
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
yeah, sorry, I meant to reference your comment
When I used to have some section 8 tenants one of the inspectors actually put on his report for me to clean the bathtub
I phoned him and we had a protracted conversation which ended up with him agreeing it was a stupid idea since the tenant had been living there for years
another stupid thing I had on an inspection report was 'trip hazard' since the tenant had some speaker wire lying on the floor...
When I used to have some section 8 tenants one of the inspectors actually put on his report for me to clean the bathtub
I phoned him and we had a protracted conversation which ended up with him agreeing it was a stupid idea since the tenant had been living there for years
another stupid thing I had on an inspection report was 'trip hazard' since the tenant had some speaker wire lying on the floor...
#57
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
yeah, sorry, I meant to reference your comment
When I used to have some section 8 tenants one of the inspectors actually put on his report for me to clean the bathtub
I phoned him and we had a protracted conversation which ended up with him agreeing it was a stupid idea since the tenant had been living there for years
another stupid thing I had on an inspection report was 'trip hazard' since the tenant had some speaker wire lying on the floor...
When I used to have some section 8 tenants one of the inspectors actually put on his report for me to clean the bathtub
I phoned him and we had a protracted conversation which ended up with him agreeing it was a stupid idea since the tenant had been living there for years
another stupid thing I had on an inspection report was 'trip hazard' since the tenant had some speaker wire lying on the floor...
#58
Mr. Grumpy
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
I have to disagree a bit.
If the mold is seeping from BEHIND the grout, and cannot be cleaned - it's not sealed tight to the tub. I had this problem.
Technically, I'd say the landlord should remove the stained grout at the tub rim, and caulk the thing. Solved the problem for me. But actually, I did it myself, rather than wait for the landlord.
Of course there is a funny (now, after many years) nightmare story about me and the caulk... didn't realize you needed a caulking gun... gave it a good squeeze...
If the mold is seeping from BEHIND the grout, and cannot be cleaned - it's not sealed tight to the tub. I had this problem.
Technically, I'd say the landlord should remove the stained grout at the tub rim, and caulk the thing. Solved the problem for me. But actually, I did it myself, rather than wait for the landlord.
Of course there is a funny (now, after many years) nightmare story about me and the caulk... didn't realize you needed a caulking gun... gave it a good squeeze...
I completely agree with your assertion, remove all the old caulk and re-caulk it
#59
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Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
Sounds like she just has GROUT at the tubline rather than caulk. Which I think doesn't work nearly as well.
Re-caulking it and sealing the grout might help quite a bit - if it's all leaky, water's getting behind there whenever she uses the shower.
#60
Re: Negotiating our rent renewal -- any advice?
Oh sure, I understand. Sorry.
Sounds like she just has GROUT at the tubline rather than caulk. Which I think doesn't work nearly as well.
Re-caulking it and sealing the grout might help quite a bit - if it's all leaky, water's getting behind there whenever she uses the shower.
Sounds like she just has GROUT at the tubline rather than caulk. Which I think doesn't work nearly as well.
Re-caulking it and sealing the grout might help quite a bit - if it's all leaky, water's getting behind there whenever she uses the shower.