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tht Aug 6th 2024 12:11 pm

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by gtd2000 (Post 13268098)
I had a couple of UK companies contacting me in the past month or two about US based roles.

I've not looked at the general cost of living increases in recent years but I was totally surprised at how much costs have risen in general!

The last time I worked in the USA, I was on roughly $250K back in 2014.

They seem to be offering rates of $165K to $185K these days with what looks like a 100% increase in costs!

On LinkedIn I see NY rates for suitable jobs advertised at $135K!

It's absolutely mind boggling and so far removed, from the country I moved to, way back in 2001, when everything was so affordable.

My neighbour was offered a job in Florida and was really quite keen to make the move over. I said I would sit down with him and figure out how much he would need to earn to stand still, this was possibly around 10 years back. It came to $75K just to stand still!
He was like, "come on, it can't be that much that to live there?" I explained that back in 2001, I used to get $45K per diem, per annum, as a single guy and that he had a wife and 3 kids, the allowances have definitely not kept up with the cost of living increases, even back in 2014.

some of that is inflation increasing the cost of groceries, electricity and to a lesser extent gas(petrol), but some is more structural. If I was to refinance my primary US residence today my monthly cost would double. If I was to buy it today at “market price” my monthly payment wound be 2.5-3x what I am currently paying… so comparing costs for someone arriving today who would need to rent or buy at todays rents/price/rates vs. people who brought at a different part of the cycle can help explain why when you calculate the cost of living as a new arrival today would be extremely high.

gtd2000 Aug 6th 2024 10:58 pm

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13268107)
some of that is inflation increasing the cost of groceries, electricity and to a lesser extent gas(petrol), but some is more structural. If I was to refinance my primary US residence today my monthly cost would double. If I was to buy it today at “market price” my monthly payment wound be 2.5-3x what I am currently paying… so comparing costs for someone arriving today who would need to rent or buy at todays rents/price/rates vs. people who brought at a different part of the cycle can help explain why when you calculate the cost of living as a new arrival today would be extremely high.

I guess many Western nations are experiencing greatly increased costs but the US levels were astonishing.

One of my English pals, that's been a US resident for many years, commented that it's like paying Swiss prices for third world service these days.

The house (my ex's) that my 2 US kids live in is now 3 times the value that it cost back in 2004, when it was built.

Pulaski Aug 7th 2024 3:26 am

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13268107)
... and to a lesser extent gas(petrol) ....

I can never work out where this idea that gas is a significant part of inflation today, or indeed any part of inflation came from, other than it is an idiotic talking point of the MAGA Republicans.

Today gas is about 20% cheaper in dollar terms than it was 14-16 years ago,* and about 50% cheaper adjusting for inflation. I am paying less today for high octane gas than I was for regular unleaded back then!

* That might not be true in some states that have very high gasoline taxes.

tht Aug 7th 2024 4:37 am

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13268302)
I can never work out where this idea that gas is a significant part of inflation today, or indeed any part of inflation came from, other than it is an idiotic talking point of the MAGA Republicans.

Today gas is about 20% cheaper in dollar terms than it was 14-16 years ago,* and about 50% cheaper adjusting for inflation. I am paying less today for high octane gas than I was for regular unleaded back then!

* That might not be true in some states that have very high gasoline taxes.

I think it’s just people who lived here when it was sub $1 a gallon looking back to the past…

having lived in UK, NZ, EU etc I have always thought gas is cheap here in the US….

ddsrph Aug 7th 2024 4:45 am

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13268315)
I think it’s just people who lived here when it was sub $1 a gallon looking back to the past…

having lived in UK, NZ, EU etc I have always thought gas is cheap here in the US….

Thats true going even further back. When I was on HS in mid sixties gas was around 32 cents per gallon and minimum wage was 1.25. Not a lot different from today when you run the numbers. Another point back then 15-18mpg was considered an economy car.

postbox134 Aug 7th 2024 4:46 am

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13268302)
I can never work out where this idea that gas is a significant part of inflation today, or indeed any part of inflation came from, other than it is an idiotic talking point of the MAGA Republicans.

Today gas is about 20% cheaper in dollar terms than it was 14-16 years ago,* and about 50% cheaper adjusting for inflation. I am paying less today for high octane gas than I was for regular unleaded back then!

* That might not be true in some states that have very high gasoline taxes.

There's quite a lot of research on this - why do people care so much about gas prices when other things have much higher impact on their cost of living. It basically boils down to it being a universally comparable number that people are used to noticing (i.e. when driving around you'll check the displayed prices so you can save a few cents on each tank) - that give sit a special place in people's minds.

Pulaski Aug 7th 2024 8:37 am

Re: Move Offer
 

Originally Posted by tht (Post 13268315)
I think it’s just people who lived here when it was sub $1 a gallon looking back to the past. ....

I somewhat agree, having pumped gas, briefly, and slightly, at under $1/gal, in 1999 IIRC, but it's more that people seem to have completely forgotten about the run up in gas prices between 2006 and 2008, reaching about $4/gal, and IIRC prices stayed at that level for the next 2-3 years. $4/gal in 2008 would be around $6/gal today (and I think both past and current prices are different in California and a few other states).

Originally Posted by postbox134 (Post 13268319)
There's quite a lot of research on this - why do people care so much about gas prices when other things have much higher impact on their cost of living. It basically boils down to it being a universally comparable number that people are used to noticing (i.e. when driving around you'll check the displayed prices so you can save a few cents on each tank) - that give sit a special place in people's minds.

Agreed, I have long argued that the fact that the price appears frequently along side every urban and suburban road, and every major intersection means that it dominates peoples' perceptions.

Personally, I realized that even at $4/gal, gas is only a tiny part of our household budget, even though as a family we are driving about 2,000 miles/ mth, and that no matter how many gas station signs I pass, a 10c, or 20c price increase has a truly negligible impact on our budget.

All that said, I do feel for those drivers I see at the gas station with their beat-up Civic or old Buick, going to the desk with a $10 bill to prepay, because that's all they can afford. .... And I see people prepaying with cash most of the time when I go to buy gas.


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