Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!
Oh well, that's that!
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!
Oh well, that's that!
Oh well, that's that!
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by BrigieDarling
I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!
Oh well, that's that!
Oh well, that's that!
Is that all you have to say?
" federal judge has ordered prison officials in Michigan to immediately cease the use of non-medical, punitive restraints following the death of a mentally ill inmate who died after four days spent naked and shackled in an isolated cell..........
Souders, 21, spent most of his last four days naked inside an isolation cell at the Southern Michigan Correctional Facility in Jackson, his arms and legs bound in shackles and sometimes lying in his own urine. He died Aug. 6, two hours after jail staff removed his restraints. "
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by Elvira
Is that all you have to say?
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"The court finds that the defendant's practice constitutes torture and violates the Eighth Amendment," Enslen wrote in his ruling.
Hmmm, and yet Abu Ghraib didn't? Count as torture I mean. Obviosly Iraqi's aren't covered by the eight amendment.
Hmmm, and yet Abu Ghraib didn't? Count as torture I mean. Obviosly Iraqi's aren't covered by the eight amendment.
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This is what happens when you put mental patients in an environment that isn't made to deal with them. Have you ever tried to deal with a raging nutter? When you have criticise others who do. I have watched them punch dents in steel doors or take 4 or 5 staff to subdue them I've met guys who have had their jaws broken through a riot helmet by a nutter. Sometimes reciprocal violence or harsh restraint is the only answer. I'm sure the staff didn't want him to die but they probably hadn't got an answer suited to his problems.
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by Thydney
This is what happens when you put mental patients in an environment that isn't made to deal with them. Have you ever tried to deal with a raging nutter? When you have criticise others who do. I have watched them punch dents in steel doors or take 4 or 5 staff to subdue them I've met guys who have had their jaws broken through a riot helmet by a nutter. Sometimes reciprocal violence or harsh restraint is the only answer. I'm sure the staff didn't want him to die but they probably hadn't got an answer suited to his problems.
Seeing that they must have known that the restraints were not appropriate, WTF did they not monitor him?
A 21-year old kid dying like a dog - this just makes me sick!
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Originally Posted by Elvira
Seeing that they must have known that the restraints were not appropriate, WTF did they not monitor him?
A 21-year old kid dying like a dog - this just makes me sick!
A 21-year old kid dying like a dog - this just makes me sick!
Elvira...you seem a little prickly today...take some time out and pour yourself a large one.
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Elvira...you seem a little prickly today...take some time out and pour yourself a large one.
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Originally Posted by Elvira
Don't worry, I already have
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Maybe you should try another.
Good idea. Your shout
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Originally Posted by Elvira
Good idea. Your shout
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
OK what are you drinking?
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Re: Michigan Jails Ordered to Limit Shackle Use
Originally Posted by Elvira
I think it's Merlot