Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
#46
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by britvic
Well poor Ray this morning said he had a blanket around him
It better warm up by Thanksgiving the folks are coming and we are trucking down that way
#47
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Tbag
Hiya Vic Oh dear.... that's not very Floridian
It better warm up by Thanksgiving the folks are coming and we are trucking down that way
It better warm up by Thanksgiving the folks are coming and we are trucking down that way
#48
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Mary
No, I don't, the GC and visa are two separate things, if I get a GC I would not need an H1B..
Although whever it happens or not, I don't know!
Although whever it happens or not, I don't know!
My OH is being filed as an EB2 (sounds painful) and we have been told that we will have our GC's next year. They are using PERM but I'll believe it when I see it.
#49
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Mary
Hi
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. Now all I hear is that in the US you have to work really long hours (weekends too) and have barely no holiday (1 week seem to be the norm). I am starting to think it is not worth coming to the US if all I do is work. I am not lazy, but 100 hour week seem a bit much to me…
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. Now all I hear is that in the US you have to work really long hours (weekends too) and have barely no holiday (1 week seem to be the norm). I am starting to think it is not worth coming to the US if all I do is work. I am not lazy, but 100 hour week seem a bit much to me…
My position is salary based and I work from 8:30am to 5:00pm (I usually start at 7:30am).
My vacation time is two weeks per year but when I was in England, that was the amount of my hoildays I would use anyway. My vacation allowance will go up the longer I stay here.
My boss is great and doesn't mind me leaving early some days if I have something to do (recently didn't mind last week when I took half a day to buy a new car).
Not all companies work you to death but they are out there.
To be honest, I love the company I work for. More so than any company I've worked for in England.
#50
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Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
A lot depends on whether or not you are salaried or hourly. Salaried positions typically mean 40 hours pay for at least 60 hours work and two weeks vacation (that you will have a hard time taking, at least as you scheduled). Expect to work at home in the evening and on weekends. Some employers limit the number of hours an hourly employee may work to avoid paying overtime (usually the base hourly rate plus one half the base). A few will even “suggest” (illegally) hourly employees work a “little extra” for no compensation to “support the team”, and they usually get away with it. Many hourly positions are low paying, and the employee can’t afford to loose the job or hire an attorney to protect their rights. Contrary to the figures stated in the media, many areas of the US have more people looking for work than jobs available, so replacing someone who is “not a team player” isn’t an issue.
Be very diligent in investigating potential employers. Do your homework. Most are honest, some are not.
Be very diligent in investigating potential employers. Do your homework. Most are honest, some are not.
#51
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Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by BmblBee
A lot depends on whether or not.....................very diligent in investigating potential employers. Do your homework. Most are honest, some are not.
Well, so I quit and start on Monday doing job shop work, earning time and a half for OT. Feels better already.
#52
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Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Hi,
I've lived in the US for 7 years now, and at first it does appear daunting - longer hours and less vacation is the norm BUT, and this is a big BUT, everything is negotiable. I'm just starting a new job and I negotiated 5 weeks of vacation into the deal. Even the big blue chip companies are flexible.
I moved here from the UK, and it took me a while to realize that this is a big cultural difference - companies will treat you like a door mat, unless you stand up for yourself. And if you do, you can climb that ladder pretty fast.
Good luck,
-Mike
I've lived in the US for 7 years now, and at first it does appear daunting - longer hours and less vacation is the norm BUT, and this is a big BUT, everything is negotiable. I'm just starting a new job and I negotiated 5 weeks of vacation into the deal. Even the big blue chip companies are flexible.
I moved here from the UK, and it took me a while to realize that this is a big cultural difference - companies will treat you like a door mat, unless you stand up for yourself. And if you do, you can climb that ladder pretty fast.
Good luck,
-Mike
Originally Posted by Mary
Hi
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. Now all I hear is that in the US you have to work really long hours (weekends too) and have barely no holiday (1 week seem to be the norm). I am starting to think it is not worth coming to the US if all I do is work. I am not lazy, but 100 hour week seem a bit much to me…
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. Now all I hear is that in the US you have to work really long hours (weekends too) and have barely no holiday (1 week seem to be the norm). I am starting to think it is not worth coming to the US if all I do is work. I am not lazy, but 100 hour week seem a bit much to me…
#53
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by hoegaarth
Hi,
I've lived in the US for 7 years now, and at first it does appear daunting - longer hours and less vacation is the norm BUT, and this is a big BUT, everything is negotiable. I'm just starting a new job and I negotiated 5 weeks of vacation into the deal. Even the big blue chip companies are flexible.
I moved here from the UK, and it took me a while to realize that this is a big cultural difference - companies will treat you like a door mat, unless you stand up for yourself. And if you do, you can climb that ladder pretty fast.
I've lived in the US for 7 years now, and at first it does appear daunting - longer hours and less vacation is the norm BUT, and this is a big BUT, everything is negotiable. I'm just starting a new job and I negotiated 5 weeks of vacation into the deal. Even the big blue chip companies are flexible.
I moved here from the UK, and it took me a while to realize that this is a big cultural difference - companies will treat you like a door mat, unless you stand up for yourself. And if you do, you can climb that ladder pretty fast.
#54
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Both relevant points from Bob and Hoegaarth.
The trick is to arrive at a happy medium in a lot of cases. Its very hard to do, but you have to try to negotiate right up to the "bugger off we'll get someone else" breaking point, but not beyond.
The trick is to arrive at a happy medium in a lot of cases. Its very hard to do, but you have to try to negotiate right up to the "bugger off we'll get someone else" breaking point, but not beyond.
#55
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Dan725
The trick is to arrive at a happy medium in a lot of cases. Its very hard to do, but you have to try to negotiate right up to the "bugger off we'll get someone else" breaking point, but not beyond.
#56
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Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by rincewind
It depends what job you are in.
My position is salary based and I work from 8:30am to 5:00pm (I usually start at 7:30am).
My vacation time is two weeks per year but when I was in England, that was the amount of my hoildays I would use anyway. My vacation allowance will go up the longer I stay here.
My boss is great and doesn't mind me leaving early some days if I have something to do (recently didn't mind last week when I took half a day to buy a new car).
Not all companies work you to death but they are out there.
To be honest, I love the company I work for. More so than any company I've worked for in England.
My position is salary based and I work from 8:30am to 5:00pm (I usually start at 7:30am).
My vacation time is two weeks per year but when I was in England, that was the amount of my hoildays I would use anyway. My vacation allowance will go up the longer I stay here.
My boss is great and doesn't mind me leaving early some days if I have something to do (recently didn't mind last week when I took half a day to buy a new car).
Not all companies work you to death but they are out there.
To be honest, I love the company I work for. More so than any company I've worked for in England.
#57
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Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Bob
Or, and like a lot of them will, tell you to sod off....it's all very well if your going up for VP type position or the dogs nuts, but most positions, they would laugh at you, including the very big companies.
Course, the problem isn't how much time off you actually have - I've found that its really hard to actually take vacation, and even when I am on vacation I still get email and calls from the office..... ugh
#58
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by hoegaarth
Course, the problem isn't how much time off you actually have - I've found that its really hard to actually take vacation, and even when I am on vacation I still get email and calls from the office..... ugh
#59
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by Mary
Hi
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. .....
I am being interviewed at the moment for jobs in the US (hopefully starting October next year when the new H1B come in). I am an auditor looking to work in public practice firms or Big 4. .....
I consider that I get, and take, a fair number of days (comparable to what I got when I worked in the UK) and I expect to still have 14 days unused and rolled over at the end of this year after four years in my current job. I am optimistic that I may be able to wangle a title promotion around the turn of the year, and that will give me another five days each year.
I think you know already that you are going to be worked hard by any Big 4 firm - the question is, can you leverage that to jump ship later to another employer that doesn't overwork you?
#60
Re: Long hours no holiday, is it worth it?
Originally Posted by hoegaarth
Yeah, there is some truth to that, I work in a high demand field, and as a result you can play one offer against another.
The work culture is also to not take much vacation, with the exception of going back to one's home country periodically.
I wish this would change and things would go back to the way they were 20 years ago, but I'm not holding my breath!