Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
Jul 17th 2014, 11:50 pm
#106
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
Seems pretty defined to me. It's about money, and, secondarily, race. They often go together of course but money trumps race.
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Jul 17th 2014, 11:55 pm
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
It's as if the OP thinks that there isn't a class structure here in the US. Whilst it's not as defined - or as discussed - as it is in England, there is a definite class /QUOTE]
Seems pretty defined to me. It's about money, and, secondarily, race. They often go together of course but money trumps race.
Seems pretty defined to me. It's about money, and, secondarily, race. They often go together of course but money trumps race.
Jul 18th 2014, 12:26 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
[QUOTE=Lion in Winter;11339787]
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
It's as if the OP thinks that there isn't a class structure here in the US. Whilst it's not as defined - or as discussed - as it is in England, there is a definite class /QUOTE]
Seems pretty defined to me. It's about money, and, secondarily, race. They often go together of course but money trumps race.
Seems pretty defined to me. It's about money, and, secondarily, race. They often go together of course but money trumps race.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
Jul 18th 2014, 12:55 am
#109
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
[QUOTE=Oregon4now;11339829]
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
I have to agree...The janitor at my former company would play golf with the CEO on weekends. Now, I don't know if he ever had him in his home or introduced him to his beautiful wife, probably not, but they always played golf and had drinks afterwards at the 19 Hole on Sundays. That doesn't happen in the U.K..
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.
Jul 18th 2014, 1:42 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
[QUOTE=Oregon4now;11339829]
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
You've become brainwashed. How you can call a land that doesn't provide basic healthcare for its citizens, and prices all bar the richest out of university, one of 'opportunity' is beyond me.
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
Jul 18th 2014, 1:45 am
#112
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
[QUOTE=Golden Boy;11339844]
I have to agree...The janitor at my former company would play golf with the CEO on weekends. Now, I don't know if he ever had him in his home or introduced him to his beautiful wife, probably not, but they always played golf and had drinks afterwards at the 19 Hole on Sundays. That doesn't happen in the U.K..
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.
'Everyome except black people are treated as equals' - that's possibly the most ignorantly ironic statement I've read this week. We'll just overlook the fact that the black population aren't treated as equals, shall we, because it's ok - all the whites are. That's FREEDOM AND OPPORTUNITY right there.
I really think some of these comments I'm reading are deliberate wind ups.
I have to agree...The janitor at my former company would play golf with the CEO on weekends. Now, I don't know if he ever had him in his home or introduced him to his beautiful wife, probably not, but they always played golf and had drinks afterwards at the 19 Hole on Sundays. That doesn't happen in the U.K..
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.
I really think some of these comments I'm reading are deliberate wind ups.
Jul 18th 2014, 2:10 am
#113
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
This gets delivered to my place in SF - choc full of "upper class" types doing something for "chaarridy" between coffee mornings.
Jul 18th 2014, 2:14 am
#114
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
[QUOTE=Oregon4now;11339829]
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
There are a lot of Indian immigrants to the UK whose kids are now doctors, dentists, accountants - it's part of the immigration cycle.
The reality is that the US does not have a particularly high socio-economic mobility (and neither does the UK).
Socio-economic mobility in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
The reality is that the US does not have a particularly high socio-economic mobility (and neither does the UK).
Socio-economic mobility in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Several large studies of mobility in developed countries in recent years have found the US among the lowest in mobility
Jul 18th 2014, 2:22 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
You like to paint the picture that way, You always have in this Forum along with a few other select Brits. I am a product of the American Dream, My family came here with NADA in the early 70's I was 9 years old, I am the product of a South African/ British/ Chilean household.
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
My family emigrated to the USA in 1972/73 without a sous to their name, we had food stamps and lived off of welfare the first 3 years, my Father got a job at the studios and trained to be a Journeyman Cameraman , my Mother volunteered at the Red Cross for 6 years as well as sponsoring 2 Cuban families in an exchange program that brought those Families to the USA to live with us until they had proper accommodation and jobs. They managed to produce 2 Drs and 1 Lawyer as well as 1 adventurer on this lower middle class income. We thought ourselves poor yet lucky enough to help those who wanted to move up.. I have always moved in mixed circles and have NEVER yet ONE TIME met a so called snob who would look down on me due to my Background, I have never been excluded from anything due to my background, hell, if anything I was considered exotic because of my background and people looked up to me for my success despite my so called background . Personally I feel that it is a European mentality, better left in Europe... The USA is still the Land of Opportunity in my humble opinion, I am grateful to be here and live the life that I do xoxoxo
But what HH mentioned, well it does also happen in this country.
It is a big country after all.
Jul 18th 2014, 2:32 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
http://www.nobhillgazette.com/wp/pho...=2014&month=07
This gets delivered to my place in SF - choc full of "upper class" types doing something for "chaarridy" between coffee mornings.
This gets delivered to my place in SF - choc full of "upper class" types doing something for "chaarridy" between coffee mornings.
Also those Greek things at university - people go apopleptic about their kid getting into the right one.
Last edited by Sally Redux; Jul 18th 2014 at 2:35 am.
Jul 18th 2014, 3:02 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
http://www.nobhillgazette.com/wp/pho...=2014&month=07
This gets delivered to my place in SF - choc full of "upper class" types doing something for "chaarridy" between coffee mornings.
This gets delivered to my place in SF - choc full of "upper class" types doing something for "chaarridy" between coffee mornings.
Jul 18th 2014, 3:05 am
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Re: Lived in USA for 3 months, now im depressed.
(from Golden Boy - total quote mess)
I have to agree...The janitor at my former company would play golf with the CEO on weekends. Now, I don't know if he ever had him in his home or introduced him to his beautiful wife, probably not, but they always played golf and had drinks afterwards at the 19 Hole on Sundays. That doesn't happen in the U.K..
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.
I have to agree...The janitor at my former company would play golf with the CEO on weekends. Now, I don't know if he ever had him in his home or introduced him to his beautiful wife, probably not, but they always played golf and had drinks afterwards at the 19 Hole on Sundays. That doesn't happen in the U.K..
Unless you're talking about the Bill Gates crowd, the 1%rs, there is no class in America. Everyone accept Black people are treated as equals.