Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Jan 20th 2006, 9:34 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by franc111s
Come on, you don't have to carry your green card with you..
Jan 20th 2006, 9:39 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by HunterGreen
Just because nobody ever gets fined (how do you know for certain?) and all that doesn't mean it's bullchit. The INA says everyone 18 yrs and over has to carry it at all times. Whether that can be done practically, whether you or anyone chooses to do so or not, and/or whether you'll ever get asked for it has nothing to do with that.
Elaine
Elaine
That's all I'm saying...
Jan 20th 2006, 10:17 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Actually, I believe it is illegal for anyone to even ask you for it, unless they are a USCIS officer or whatever the heck it's called. So I don't disagree with you either, however I do think it's not right to say 'come on, you don't have to carry it' when the INA clearly states you have to....
Elaine (not your sis - the other one
)
Elaine (not your sis - the other one
)
Jan 20th 2006, 10:23 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by HunterGreen
Actually, I believe it is illegal for anyone to even ask you for it, unless they are a USCIS officer or whatever the heck it's called. So I don't disagree with you either, however I do think it's not right to say 'come on, you don't have to carry it' when the INA clearly states you have to....
Elaine (not your sis - the other one)
Elaine (not your sis - the other one
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Jan 20th 2006, 10:30 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
I don't think local or state cops care, as long as your driving license is in order. On a day to day basis, it's probably worse losing your license than your green card, although losing the GC is going to send you into USCIS freefall again...
He keeps copies of his stuff now, too. Not that it will prevent him from losing the originals again (watch me lose my wallet soon because karma will probably strike me now for making fun of him 
).Elaine
Jan 20th 2006, 10:44 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by franc111s
Elaine (I like that name, it's my sisters name and hardly heard in the USA), I don't disagree BUT come on, the risk of losing it is 100 x that of ever being asked for it. Let alone, EVEN if you are asked for it (UNLIKELY you must admit), is the person asking really going to fine you? No way. You won't get into trouble, that's a fact - it's not a LAW. Did you know, if you lost your green card whilst overseas (or your US passport), you will still get back in without either.
That's all I'm saying...
That's all I'm saying...
Jan 20th 2006, 10:46 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by HunterGreen
Actually, you only have to carry your PR card on you all the time when you're over 18.
To convince you, here's a quote on this that I found, from someone who should know:
d) Certificate of alien registration or alien receipt card
Every alien in the United States who has been registered and fingerprinted under the provisions of the Alien Registration Act, 1940, or under the provisions of this chapter shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations issued by the Attorney General.
(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties
Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.
Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter II, Part VII, Sec. 1304 (INA).
So that would be the law.
Elaine
To convince you, here's a quote on this that I found, from someone who should know:
d) Certificate of alien registration or alien receipt card
Every alien in the United States who has been registered and fingerprinted under the provisions of the Alien Registration Act, 1940, or under the provisions of this chapter shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations issued by the Attorney General.
(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties
Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.
Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter II, Part VII, Sec. 1304 (INA).
So that would be the law.
Elaine
Jan 20th 2006, 10:46 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
My greencard arrived on Tuesday along with my son's. Now, I know I have to carry mine at all times but what about him? He's a minor.
I'm assuming he's not expected to carry it.
But am I expected to carry it for him?
Or can we just leave his at home?
I'm assuming he's not expected to carry it.
But am I expected to carry it for him?
Or can we just leave his at home?
Jan 20th 2006, 10:48 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
Thanks Elaine. Karma sent. Just had to read through two pages of drivel and conjecture after your post. As usual.
Jan 20th 2006, 11:54 pm
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
I truthfully don't know a single person beyond newbies to it who carry it around, and they do it because they're just not aware of what a hassle it is to get a new one if it is lost or stolen (as happened to a friend of mine whose purse got lifted at a restaurant a few years ago).
The 10 year renewal alone takes forever for some people, never mind getting a replacement card. I guess the INS has higher priorities than issuing new cards.
The 10 year renewal alone takes forever for some people, never mind getting a replacement card. I guess the INS has higher priorities than issuing new cards.
Jan 21st 2006, 12:04 am
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by izibear
I truthfully don't know a single person beyond newbies to it who carry it around, and they do it because they're just not aware of what a hassle it is to get a new one if it is lost or stolen (as happened to a friend of mine whose purse got lifted at a restaurant a few years ago).
The 10 year renewal alone takes forever for some people, never mind getting a replacement card. I guess the INS has higher priorities than issuing new cards.
The 10 year renewal alone takes forever for some people, never mind getting a replacement card. I guess the INS has higher priorities than issuing new cards.
Jan 21st 2006, 1:03 am
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
I carried mine for eight years, because I was told I had to...and then I lost it, actually I threw it away without realizing... 
After all the hassle of getting a new one, and going home and back here without one, the imigration officer at the airport where I returned, told me in no uncertain terms to NEVER carry it unless leaving the country...so now I don't.
I'm sure that if it is a law and you did get asked for it, there must be a time frame to come up with it if you're not carrying it on your person, sort of like your driving license or insurance?
After all the hassle of getting a new one, and going home and back here without one, the imigration officer at the airport where I returned, told me in no uncertain terms to NEVER carry it unless leaving the country...so now I don't.I'm sure that if it is a law and you did get asked for it, there must be a time frame to come up with it if you're not carrying it on your person, sort of like your driving license or insurance?
Jan 21st 2006, 1:07 am
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by BrandonBrit
I carried mine for eight years, because I was told I had to...and then I lost it, actually I threw it away without realizing... After all the hassle of getting a new one, and going home and back here without one, the imigration officer at the airport where I returned, told me in no uncertain terms to NEVER carry it unless leaving the country...so now I don't.
I'm sure that if it is a law and you did get asked for it, there must be a time frame to come up with it if you're not carrying it on your person, sort of like your driving license or insurance?
After all the hassle of getting a new one, and going home and back here without one, the imigration officer at the airport where I returned, told me in no uncertain terms to NEVER carry it unless leaving the country...so now I don't.I'm sure that if it is a law and you did get asked for it, there must be a time frame to come up with it if you're not carrying it on your person, sort of like your driving license or insurance?
Doh!
Jan 21st 2006, 2:28 am
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by CaliforniaBride
So, you carried it without problems for 8 years. Then you had a lobotomy? Daft enough to throw it away, even dafter to travel without it, then to compound the error you decide to flout the law and never carry it again?
Doh!
Doh!
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Jan 21st 2006, 3:30 am
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Re: Kids Carrying Greencards at All Times?
Originally Posted by franc111s
<<snip>>
What cop is going to ask you for anything about your citizenship, even if you get stopped. <<snip>>
What cop is going to ask you for anything about your citizenship, even if you get stopped. <<snip>>
I can understand Permanent Residents being asked to carry or show proof of legal residence in the US but citizenship (whatever that has to do with being able to live/work in the US)...
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