evoal2003

A 3 year old Ml would be alot less than the X5 and still a great car.

Although if money were no object the X5 is better.

The jeep V8 produces 235 hp as apposed to the 225 hp of the X5 6 cylinder.

jumping doris

I have a Jeep Liberty and I love it! It is a no frills model as my only requirement was a manual gearbox. I really enjoy driving it.

evoal2003

You'll be in it a while so just as well....

jumping doris

My dog likes it, what more can I say

TruBrit

just traded my 3 yr old merc ml suv....it was boring to drive however i believe the 2006 model is much better

frrussre

Also, agree with that statement. In UK I always preferred, lux 2/3 year old car, to brand new Ford etc. Trouble is in USA (NYC), scares me to buy a used car. Repair & rip offs are 2 a penny.
Reg. Frank R.

BritGuyTN

sorry, they must have uprated the jeep engine since my wife's old 2000 model.

it also appears that the US x5 3.0 litre is slightly detuned for the usa

BritGuyTN

Yeah, 3-4 year beemer vs a new or 1-2 year old toyota is a no brainer for me

OK if budgeting for maintenance is a prob then fair enough, but i would always let someone else pay the steepest depreciation and let me drive a much nicer car

i've probably lost 5k in 18 months on my current 6 year old car (about 14%) which to me is pretty reasonable

evoal2003

Most cars in the US have to be detuned from the euro cars because of the octane rating, even premium in the US would struggle to start a fire.

Hiro11

I think it has more to do with meeting emissions regs than "detuning".

RoadWarriorFromLP

Octane numbers aren't comparable, it's a bit like comparing metric to standard measurements.

Octane in Europe is reported in RON (Research Octane), whereas in the US, octane is reported as an average of RON and a lower figure called MON (Motor Octane), which gets converted into an average called PON or AKI. MON is always lower than RON, so the US octane number (PON or AKI) for a given grade of fuel is going to be lower than the European equivalent.

Here's a conversion table. Basically, you have to deduct 3 or 4 from the European octane number to find the US equivalent:

US (PON or AKI) / Europe (RON)
Regular: 87 / 90
Mid-grade: 89 / 92
Premium: 91 / 95
Premium: 92 / 96