If you could be president for a month?
Apr 7th 2004, 4:01 am
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If you could be president for a month?
If you could be president of the United States for a month, how would you deal with foreign policy with the Middle East and Europe. How would you fix the economy and the health care system we currently have in the states. And how would you fit in living in the White House and hosting world leaders, and being the leader of the biggest superpower in the world.
Apr 7th 2004, 4:50 am
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Re: If you could be president for a month?
Originally posted by ejay1
If you could be president of the United States for a month, how would you deal with foreign policy with the Middle East and Europe. How would you fix the economy and the health care system we currently have in the states. And how would you fit in living in the White House and hosting world leaders, and being the leader of the biggest superpower in the world.
If you could be president of the United States for a month, how would you deal with foreign policy with the Middle East and Europe. How would you fix the economy and the health care system we currently have in the states. And how would you fit in living in the White House and hosting world leaders, and being the leader of the biggest superpower in the world.
The last part, no trouble i have a huge ego!
The earlier part. Ummm? How long do i have? In a nutshell.
Foreign Policy: make new friends, show some respect for other countries views, develop deeper alliances. Solve israel vs palestine. 2 state solution recognition of israel by palestinians. Cut back aid to israel to force them down the needed path. Use a joint EU backed effort to pressure palestinians to end their violence. Iraq? i really dont know right now. As the old irish saying goes when asked the directions to somewhere 'well i wouldnt start from here!'
Economy: tax increases to 40% on earnings over $200,000 per year. Switch to non return PAYE system for all but self employed. Simplify system by scrapping most tax deductions. Raise federal exemption level to $8000 p/a per person. Pressurise states to match it and provide federal replacement funds to assist in transition period. Bring back estate tax at 40% on all estates over $2.5 million. Force all companies biding for U.S contracts to be U.S Headquartered and thus taxed(no more Halliburton $7 billion in govt contracts in Iraq alone but HQ in Caymans so paid around $15 million in U.S taxes last year.) Balance the budget. (Frees up capital markets allows for investment led growth.)Stronger pro-union federal laws to protect workers, in service and low pay industries. More emphasise on worker co-operative councils and german style workers board room places. Raise minimum wage to $8 per hour.
Health care: Universal free at point of delivery coverage, tax payer funded. special health tax to fund it. Cut military to cover additional cost. Invest lots in free primary care cover. Some people will lose some of the rolls royce service they get now but overall cost would come down. (Current spend 15% of GDP with 44 million not covered, admin cost around 12% in USA. In UK GDP 7.8% full coverage admin costs around 1.2%.) The USA has the worst health rating off any major western country according to W.H.O. and its the only one with no universal system, its not rocket science.
In a nutshell thats my manifesto. Of course its all pie in the sky as i doubt any of this would ever survive congress but hey its fun to dream.
Vote Duncs04!!!
Apr 7th 2004, 4:55 am
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Re: If you could be president for a month?
Originally posted by ejay1
If you could be president of the United States for a month, how would you deal with foreign policy with the Middle East and Europe. How would you fix the economy and the health care system we currently have in the states. And how would you fit in living in the White House and hosting world leaders, and being the leader of the biggest superpower in the world.
If you could be president of the United States for a month, how would you deal with foreign policy with the Middle East and Europe. How would you fix the economy and the health care system we currently have in the states. And how would you fit in living in the White House and hosting world leaders, and being the leader of the biggest superpower in the world.
(OK that was an obvious answer
)So - If I was an American and the Prez of the U.S of A...?
Foreign Policy ?
bomb the bastards !
Economy ?
blame it on the Chinese imports and then hide.
Health Care system ?
blame it on the drug companies and then take a back hander.
Living in the White House ?
I'm not painting these ******* walls, get some Mexicans to do it.
Hosting world leaders ?
Tony - the KY Jelly is in the bathroom.
Leader of the biggest superpower ?
Is this like having a big red throbbing sports care/penis extension sort of thing...?
"Hey Pootie Poot - look at my Chevy Thunderbird !"
Apr 7th 2004, 1:55 pm
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Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
Apr 7th 2004, 2:05 pm
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Originally posted by jaybob
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
So basically you would want us bring back the policy of isolationism and let the rest of the world take care of its own problems. So we break off all contact with Europe,Asia,Middle East, and Africa. And only do business and work with Canada and Latin America. That doesn't sound too bad, but I wonder what would happen to places like South Korea that would need protection from the North. Do you think Europe could handle keeping peace in their side of the world.
Apr 7th 2004, 3:37 pm
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Originally posted by jaybob
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
Apr 7th 2004, 4:21 pm
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Re: If you could be president for a month?
Originally posted by Duncs
Ok cant resist this one, oh for a constitutional amendment!
The last part, no trouble i have a huge ego!
The earlier part. Ummm? How long do i have? In a nutshell.
Foreign Policy: make new friends, show some respect for other countries views, develop deeper alliances. Solve israel vs palestine. 2 state solution recognition of israel by palestinians. Cut back aid to israel to force them down the needed path. Use a joint EU backed effort to pressure palestinians to end their violence. Iraq? i really dont know right now. As the old irish saying goes when asked the directions to somewhere 'well i wouldnt start from here!'
Economy: tax increases to 40% on earnings over $200,000 per year. Switch to non return PAYE system for all but self employed. Simplify system by scrapping most tax deductions. Raise federal exemption level to $8000 p/a per person. Pressurise states to match it and provide federal replacement funds to assist in transition period. Bring back estate tax at 40% on all estates over $2.5 million. Force all companies biding for U.S contracts to be U.S Headquartered and thus taxed(no more Halliburton $7 billion in govt contracts in Iraq alone but HQ in Caymans so paid around $15 million in U.S taxes last year.) Balance the budget. (Frees up capital markets allows for investment led growth.)Stronger pro-union federal laws to protect workers, in service and low pay industries. More emphasise on worker co-operative councils and german style workers board room places. Raise minimum wage to $8 per hour.
Health care: Universal free at point of delivery coverage, tax payer funded. special health tax to fund it. Cut military to cover additional cost. Invest lots in free primary care cover. Some people will lose some of the rolls royce service they get now but overall cost would come down. (Current spend 15% of GDP with 44 million not covered, admin cost around 12% in USA. In UK GDP 7.8% full coverage admin costs around 1.2%.) The USA has the worst health rating off any major western country according to W.H.O. and its the only one with no universal system, its not rocket science.
In a nutshell thats my manifesto. Of course its all pie in the sky as i doubt any of this would ever survive congress but hey its fun to dream.
Vote Duncs04!!!
Ok cant resist this one, oh for a constitutional amendment!
The last part, no trouble i have a huge ego!
The earlier part. Ummm? How long do i have? In a nutshell.
Foreign Policy: make new friends, show some respect for other countries views, develop deeper alliances. Solve israel vs palestine. 2 state solution recognition of israel by palestinians. Cut back aid to israel to force them down the needed path. Use a joint EU backed effort to pressure palestinians to end their violence. Iraq? i really dont know right now. As the old irish saying goes when asked the directions to somewhere 'well i wouldnt start from here!'
Economy: tax increases to 40% on earnings over $200,000 per year. Switch to non return PAYE system for all but self employed. Simplify system by scrapping most tax deductions. Raise federal exemption level to $8000 p/a per person. Pressurise states to match it and provide federal replacement funds to assist in transition period. Bring back estate tax at 40% on all estates over $2.5 million. Force all companies biding for U.S contracts to be U.S Headquartered and thus taxed(no more Halliburton $7 billion in govt contracts in Iraq alone but HQ in Caymans so paid around $15 million in U.S taxes last year.) Balance the budget. (Frees up capital markets allows for investment led growth.)Stronger pro-union federal laws to protect workers, in service and low pay industries. More emphasise on worker co-operative councils and german style workers board room places. Raise minimum wage to $8 per hour.
Health care: Universal free at point of delivery coverage, tax payer funded. special health tax to fund it. Cut military to cover additional cost. Invest lots in free primary care cover. Some people will lose some of the rolls royce service they get now but overall cost would come down. (Current spend 15% of GDP with 44 million not covered, admin cost around 12% in USA. In UK GDP 7.8% full coverage admin costs around 1.2%.) The USA has the worst health rating off any major western country according to W.H.O. and its the only one with no universal system, its not rocket science.
In a nutshell thats my manifesto. Of course its all pie in the sky as i doubt any of this would ever survive congress but hey its fun to dream.
Vote Duncs04!!!
Apr 7th 2004, 5:42 pm
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Originally posted by ejay1
Do you think Europe could handle keeping peace in their side of the world.
Do you think Europe could handle keeping peace in their side of the world.
The US could still play a part in peace keeping within the remit of the UN. Now isn't that a novel thought?!?!
Apr 7th 2004, 6:33 pm
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Originally posted by ejay1
Do you think Europe could handle keeping peace in their side of the world.
Do you think Europe could handle keeping peace in their side of the world.
No problem, I'm sleeping better already.
Last edited by ironporer; Apr 7th 2004 at 6:41 pm.
Apr 7th 2004, 6:48 pm
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Originally posted by jaybob
The US could still play a part in peace keeping within the remit of the UN. Now isn't that a novel thought?!?!
The US could still play a part in peace keeping within the remit of the UN. Now isn't that a novel thought?!?!
Cyprus- UN Peace Keepers on site for 30 years...Island still divided, no permenant solution
Bosnia- UN on site for 5 years, stood by and allowed the genocide to occur. Within 5 miles from Mosul, while the Serbs killed 8000 men.
Haiti- UN on site for 7 years.... still a ****ing mess.
India-Pakistan- On site since 1949, almost came to nuclear war last year
Wake up.... the UN is absolutely worthless, and should be disbanded (or sent to Paris- with no US presence).
For more UN Sucess stories see:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0862135.html
Apr 7th 2004, 6:56 pm
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Originally posted by jaybob
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
Sorry Webbie, so far Duncs has my vote.
As for me I would invest heavily to get the US to provide its' own energy needs ASAP, I would then withdraw from as much involvement with the rest of the world as possible especially the middle east. To me, a very naive outsider looking in, one of the biggest problems, if not the biggest problem in the US, is everybody seems to be bought off and the policies represent that. However, I would simply hope to be an aide to Duncs, as he seems to have put more thought and work into being president .
Additional policies
Economy: 50cents tax on gas (sorry i know its regressive) all proceeds to a fund to develop alternative energy sources with the intent being to make the USA energy self sufficient.
(another one) Set a limit on legal interest rates to be charged for lending. maybe an APR max of 15% over base. This would put all those loan shark companies like Check into cash, cash cow etc out of business, those people are leeches preying on the most economically vunerable. If they want to lend money out thats ok but not at 500% APR thats just usury.
Health care: Price controls on all drugs, just like every other nation. Why import drugs made by Pfizer in Ireland from canada when we could simply buy the same drugs directly ourselves for the same price the canadians pay? (If Pfizer made no profit from selling to Canada they wouldnt do, its just not as hefty a profit as they make in the USA).
Patent Attorney thank you for your private message. I am glad that all the money the Republican party spends on its propaganda has found its mark with you! If you disagree with my suggestions post your own manifesto or offer some sensible arguements against mine (openly). I can pretty much argue the facts behind all my ideas as it happens.
Last edited by Duncs; Apr 7th 2004 at 8:05 pm.
Apr 7th 2004, 7:02 pm
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Originally posted by ironporer
UN Peacekeeping.... hmmmmm
Cyprus- UN Peace Keepers on site for 30 years...Island still divided, no permenant solution
Bosnia- UN on site for 5 years, stood by and allowed the genocide to occur. Within 5 miles from Mosul, while the Serbs killed 8000 men.
Haiti- UN on site for 7 years.... still a ****ing mess.
India-Pakistan- On site since 1949, almost came to nuclear war last year
Wake up.... the UN is absolutely worthless, and should be disbanded (or sent to Paris- with no US presence).
For more UN Sucess stories see:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0862135.html
UN Peacekeeping.... hmmmmm
Cyprus- UN Peace Keepers on site for 30 years...Island still divided, no permenant solution
Bosnia- UN on site for 5 years, stood by and allowed the genocide to occur. Within 5 miles from Mosul, while the Serbs killed 8000 men.
Haiti- UN on site for 7 years.... still a ****ing mess.
India-Pakistan- On site since 1949, almost came to nuclear war last year
Wake up.... the UN is absolutely worthless, and should be disbanded (or sent to Paris- with no US presence).
For more UN Sucess stories see:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0862135.html
Apr 7th 2004, 7:46 pm
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Originally posted by Duncs
Your right i forgot that one.
Additional policies
Economy: 50cents tax on gas (sorry i know its regressive) all proceeds to a fund to develop alternative energy sources with the intent being to make the USA energy self sufficient.
Your right i forgot that one.
Additional policies
Economy: 50cents tax on gas (sorry i know its regressive) all proceeds to a fund to develop alternative energy sources with the intent being to make the USA energy self sufficient.
"Maybe he just doesn't understand what this means to the rest of us" it says. Maybe George just doesn't understand what the environment means to the rest of the world!
Apr 7th 2004, 7:59 pm
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Originally posted by ironporer
UN Peacekeeping.... hmmmmm
Cyprus- UN Peace Keepers on site for 30 years...Island still divided, no permenant solution
Bosnia- UN on site for 5 years, stood by and allowed the genocide to occur. Within 5 miles from Mosul, while the Serbs killed 8000 men.
Haiti- UN on site for 7 years.... still a ****ing mess.
India-Pakistan- On site since 1949, almost came to nuclear war last year
Wake up.... the UN is absolutely worthless, and should be disbanded (or sent to Paris- with no US presence).
For more UN Sucess stories see:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0862135.html
UN Peacekeeping.... hmmmmm
Cyprus- UN Peace Keepers on site for 30 years...Island still divided, no permenant solution
Bosnia- UN on site for 5 years, stood by and allowed the genocide to occur. Within 5 miles from Mosul, while the Serbs killed 8000 men.
Haiti- UN on site for 7 years.... still a ****ing mess.
India-Pakistan- On site since 1949, almost came to nuclear war last year
Wake up.... the UN is absolutely worthless, and should be disbanded (or sent to Paris- with no US presence).
For more UN Sucess stories see:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0862135.html
Apr 7th 2004, 8:16 pm
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Originally posted by jaybob
O.K. so disband the UN, let the US be seen as an interfering imperialist power and watch terrorists/guerillas kill Americans. Now where have I seen that one before?
O.K. so disband the UN, let the US be seen as an interfering imperialist power and watch terrorists/guerillas kill Americans. Now where have I seen that one before?
Ummmm, right now try...Falajuh, Najaf, Nasariyah, Baghdad/Kadhimiya, Baghdad/ Sadr City, Karbala, Kut, Amara, Diwaniyah and Basra. A serious 2 front insurgency this will get very nasty indeed.
