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SultanOfSwing Jan 22nd 2014 3:50 pm

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11092108)
Yes nothing like promoting science. We need more nuclear weapons, drugs like thalidomide, oil spills in the gulf, and all those good things :p

No matter how far the tongue may have been in the cheek, hippy shite like that is the reason the west has become progressively more ****ing stupid over the past forty years.


Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11092108)
There have been no good bands since Led Zeplin btw :D

I disrespectfully disagree (and I love Zeppelin).

steveq Jan 23rd 2014 12:35 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11092108)
Yes nothing like promoting science. We need more nuclear weapons, drugs like thalidomide,

Thalidomide is a GREAT drug, just not if you're pregnant. Part of the action that caused the deformities in foetuses has been found to work against tumour growth.

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 2:22 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by steveq (Post 11092784)
Thalidomide is a GREAT drug, just not if you're pregnant. Part of the action that caused the deformities in foetuses has been found to work against tumour growth.

I thought I'd heard that Thalidomide didn't cause deformities, it prevented miscarriages. Don't get me wrong, still very distressing, but the problem isn't quite what is often portrayed in the media.

SultanOfSwing Jan 23rd 2014 2:24 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11093004)
... but the problem isn't quite what is often portrayed in the media.

Imagine that ...

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 2:25 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11092108)
.... There have been no good bands since Led Zeppelin btw.

A fair few "good" ones, just very few that even aspire to greatness. :(

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 2:26 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11093010)
Imagine that ...

Yeah, I know it's a stretch. :lol: .... I ranted on the subject a few days ago, on the Planespotting thread:

I used to believe that media reporting was accurate, complete, and unbiased. Then I got involved "on the inside" of a major news story when I worked in the UK. During the course of the story I closely monitored the news and quickly learned that media stories may be a bizarre patchwork of information received directly from the source (e.g. a spokesman or press release) and other hard facts, supplemented with old (stale) data that often is no longer relevant. Then any gaps in the story are filled with information from other unofficial sources such as unappointed, self opinionated, busybodies, third party information of little relevance such as spurious comparisons to other situations that aren't actually comparable, and then any remaining holes are filled in with deductions, supposition, and guesswork by the journalist.

The result of this pigs breakfast is that the story, as reported, may have a kernel of truth, but it may be wrapped in layer upon layer of incorrect, inaccurate, or otherwise irrelevant information, sometimes rendering the story almost unrecognizable to someone "on the inside" who knows what the actual facts of the matter are.

In twenty years nothing has persuaded me that the above explanation is not true to some degree for the majority of media reporting.

SultanOfSwing Jan 23rd 2014 2:27 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11093014)
A fair few "good" ones, just very few that even aspire to greatness. :(

You obviously haven't heard my stuff yet :nod:

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 2:37 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11093022)
You obviously haven't heard my stuff yet :nod:

So I'm expecting Mark Knopfler to sign up for BE any day now with the User Name "Bad Loser". :rofl:

SultanOfSwing Jan 23rd 2014 2:47 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11093044)
So I'm expecting Mark Knopfler to sign up for BE any day now with the User Name "Bad Loser". :rofl:

Something like that, yeah ... :D

steveq Jan 23rd 2014 3:07 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11093004)
I thought I'd heard that Thalidomide didn't cause deformities, it prevented miscarriages. Don't get me wrong, still very distressing, but the problem isn't quite what is often portrayed in the media.

A subtle distinction, but AFAIR its effects are caused by the suppression of the growth of bloodvessels....pretty important in a foetus.

Casual Observer Jan 23rd 2014 11:22 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by steveq (Post 11092784)
Thalidomide is a GREAT drug, just not if you're pregnant. Part of the action that caused the deformities in foetuses has been found to work against tumour growth.

Not sure that could be considered best practice research methodology :unsure:

SultanOfSwing Jan 23rd 2014 11:57 am

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11093916)
Not sure that could be considered best practice research methodology :unsure:

Plenty of drug benefits were discovered by accident. Viagra was originally developed for heart patients and its, em, other effects became apparent during clinical trials ...

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 12:00 pm

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Casual Observer (Post 11093916)
Not sure that could be considered best practice research methodology :unsure:

Are you not familiar with the research that Pfizer was doing back in the 1990's with a drug named sildenafil citrate intended to treat high blood pressure and angina? It eventually proved to be a very successful drug and highly profitable, but not for treating high blood pressure or angina. Unfortunately heart attacks are a possible side effect. :unsure:

SultanOfSwing Jan 23rd 2014 12:05 pm

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11093937)
Are you not familiar with the research that Pfizer was doing back in the 1990's with a drug named sildenafil citrate intended to treat high blood pressure and angina? It eventually proved to be a very successful drug and highly profitable, but not for treating high blood pressure or angina. Unfortunately heart attacks are a possible side effect. :unsure:

I had to do a presentation on that in front of my class as part of a module on 'chemistry in society' at uni.

Pulaski Jan 23rd 2014 12:13 pm

Re: How does the school system work?
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11093940)
I had to do a presentation on that in front of my class as part of a module on 'chemistry in society' at uni.

How quaint. These days you would probably be presenting on the recreational uses of cannabinoids. :rolleyes:


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