Housing Madness
#136
Re: Housing Madness
Just out of curiosity, I was looking on UK estate agent websites and came up with houseboats. Well that's an angle I hadn't thought of.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
#137
Re: Housing Madness
Just out of curiosity, I was looking on UK estate agent websites and came up with houseboats. Well that's an angle I hadn't thought of.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
but site security (ie) they want to change the mooring use ..is a big problem..
#138
Re: Housing Madness
Just out of curiosity, I was looking on UK estate agent websites and came up with houseboats. Well that's an angle I hadn't thought of.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
For DH's sake, it would be nice, once we're OAPs to do six months here, six months UK. Likelihood not large but who knows?? Anyway, I could be a pirate on a houseboat. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR.
#139
Re: Housing Madness
There is the saying that a boat is just a hole in the water you thow money into.
#141
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 22,105
Re: Housing Madness
Getting new ideas and concepts into my head is kind of like teaching a suet pudding to do long division - i.e. pretty much impossible and very frustrating.
However, my stodgy old opinions do change from time to time and one of the things I'm realising you lot have been right about the whole time long is HOUSES.
I sat down with the missus to look very seriously into the question of buying a house in New Jersey and no matter how it adds up, it just doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever.
The house opposite - a nice little four bedroomed place in a pretty crappy state of repair - is going for $250,000. BARGIN, says I. But the property tax is about 6k a year. Roughly $500 a month.
So on top of the $2,000 mortgage a month (twice our current rent) you'd have to pay $500 in taxes. That's pretty much put us in a pasta-for-dinner-everynight-of-the-week and domestic-beer-only-and-not-during-the-week-even-as-a-treat kind of situation and after living like that in England for four years (although we were renting at the time - thanks Gordon Brown) methinks: Screw that.
Seriously. Let's just rent for 5 years and stick that $1,500 a month into a high interest account. At the end you'd have $75,000 saved up whereas if we'd bought the house we'd have paid $30,000 in taxes and sure-as-shite not paid off $75,000 of our mortgage.
I mean, am I missing something here? Is home ownership really so insane in America? In England $250,000 might have barely bought you a terraced shoebox with indoor plumbing, but at least property tax was only £1,200 a year instead of nearly three times that.
At least then, your hard earned wages would go towards paying off your mortgage instead of paying for garbage trucks to run down your mailbox every week.
I would LOVE to have any thoughts or opinions - I defer to your experience and knowledge.
However, my stodgy old opinions do change from time to time and one of the things I'm realising you lot have been right about the whole time long is HOUSES.
I sat down with the missus to look very seriously into the question of buying a house in New Jersey and no matter how it adds up, it just doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever.
The house opposite - a nice little four bedroomed place in a pretty crappy state of repair - is going for $250,000. BARGIN, says I. But the property tax is about 6k a year. Roughly $500 a month.
So on top of the $2,000 mortgage a month (twice our current rent) you'd have to pay $500 in taxes. That's pretty much put us in a pasta-for-dinner-everynight-of-the-week and domestic-beer-only-and-not-during-the-week-even-as-a-treat kind of situation and after living like that in England for four years (although we were renting at the time - thanks Gordon Brown) methinks: Screw that.
Seriously. Let's just rent for 5 years and stick that $1,500 a month into a high interest account. At the end you'd have $75,000 saved up whereas if we'd bought the house we'd have paid $30,000 in taxes and sure-as-shite not paid off $75,000 of our mortgage.
I mean, am I missing something here? Is home ownership really so insane in America? In England $250,000 might have barely bought you a terraced shoebox with indoor plumbing, but at least property tax was only £1,200 a year instead of nearly three times that.
At least then, your hard earned wages would go towards paying off your mortgage instead of paying for garbage trucks to run down your mailbox every week.
I would LOVE to have any thoughts or opinions - I defer to your experience and knowledge.
Our property tax isn't as high, so I'd be having fits if I had to pay what you do. Yikes! You might be better off renting if income tax at the end of the year isn't an issue. And my knowledge on these things are very limited.....so I defer to someone (like Fatbrit) who probably knows better.
#142
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: Housing Madness
Having that huge (astronomical in my book) amount of interest at the end of the year to claim on our income tax is pretty nice.......
Our property tax isn't as high, so I'd be having fits if I had to pay what you do. Yikes! You might be better off renting if income tax at the end of the year isn't an issue. And my knowledge on these things are very limited.....so I defer to someone (like Fatbrit) who probably knows better.
Our property tax isn't as high, so I'd be having fits if I had to pay what you do. Yikes! You might be better off renting if income tax at the end of the year isn't an issue. And my knowledge on these things are very limited.....so I defer to someone (like Fatbrit) who probably knows better.
Property taxes here are about what they are in the UK for the same house price.
Plus of course the tax offset.
Renting can be logical, but not normally longer term.