Hot Sunny Ja
Mar 27th 2002, 9:24 pm
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Hot Sunny Ja
Hi all
We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions for you all
I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing is being processed
2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions for you all
I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing is being processed
2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
Mar 28th 2002, 1:35 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
Generally a pretty bad idea.
If you marry in Jamaica, you can't file for/use the K-1 fiance visa. You must apply
for a spousal visa, which can take > 1 year, but you can't even apply for that
until AFTER you get married. And you can't even apply for a K-3 to visit in the
mean time because that requires that you married in the country you are applying
from (i.e. England).
Paulgani
"Help" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
>
> We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions
> for you all
>
> I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
>
> 1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing
> is being processed
> 2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
> 3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
If you marry in Jamaica, you can't file for/use the K-1 fiance visa. You must apply
for a spousal visa, which can take > 1 year, but you can't even apply for that
until AFTER you get married. And you can't even apply for a K-3 to visit in the
mean time because that requires that you married in the country you are applying
from (i.e. England).
Paulgani
"Help" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all
>
> We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions
> for you all
>
> I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
>
> 1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing
> is being processed
> 2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
> 3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Mar 28th 2002, 1:35 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
paulgani wrote:
>
> Generally a pretty bad idea.
>
> If you marry in Jamaica, you can't file for/use the K-1 fiance visa. You must apply
> for a spousal visa, which can take > 1 year, but you can't even apply for that
> until AFTER you get married. And you can't even apply for a K-3 to visit in the
> mean time because that requires that you married in the country you are applying
> from (i.e. England).
The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from. Where
did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the I-130, why would
it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F for the K-3?
Michael
>
> Generally a pretty bad idea.
>
> If you marry in Jamaica, you can't file for/use the K-1 fiance visa. You must apply
> for a spousal visa, which can take > 1 year, but you can't even apply for that
> until AFTER you get married. And you can't even apply for a K-3 to visit in the
> mean time because that requires that you married in the country you are applying
> from (i.e. England).
The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from. Where
did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the I-130, why would
it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F for the K-3?
Michael
Mar 28th 2002, 2:05 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
"Michael Voight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from. Where
> did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the I-130, why
> would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F for the K-3?
Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again. Only
the Grinch knows more than you"
"The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the nonimmigrant K visa as a
spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued from the same
foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage occurred outside of the
United States. This rule provides an exception when the United States does not have a
visa issuing post in that state. "
I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
Grinch
news:[email protected]...
> The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from. Where
> did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the I-130, why
> would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F for the K-3?
Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again. Only
the Grinch knows more than you"
"The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the nonimmigrant K visa as a
spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued from the same
foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage occurred outside of the
United States. This rule provides an exception when the United States does not have a
visa issuing post in that state. "
I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
Grinch
Mar 28th 2002, 2:35 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
You can get a K if you are already married..though after reading the law I am not
sure whether it would be a k3 or k1. check out this site:
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/lawsregs/LIFEAct.htm
It details a law change that was done last year to deal with the excrutiating time
lapse involved in the marriage visa process. Excerpted...in other words..straight to
the good part:
"(a) IN GENERAL- Section 101(a)(15)(K) of the Immigration and Nationality
Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(K)) is amended to read as follows:
`(K) subject to subsections (d) and (p) of section 214, an alien who--
`(i) is the fiancee or fiance of a citizen of the United States and who
seeks to enter the United States solely to conclude a valid marriage
with the petitioner within ninety days after admission;
`(ii) has concluded a valid marriage with a citizen of the United States
who is the petitioner, is the beneficiary of a petition to accord a
status under section 201(b)(2)(A)(i) that was filed under section 204 by
the petitioner, and seeks to enter the United States to await the
approval of such petition and the availability to the alien of an
immigrant visa; or"
My attorney told me about this when we were discussing options. You might want to use
the services of a lawyer to at least advise you as to what your options are.
Help wrote:
> Hi all
>
> We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions
> for you all
>
> I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
>
> 1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing
> is being processed
> 2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
> 3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
sure whether it would be a k3 or k1. check out this site:
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/lawsregs/LIFEAct.htm
It details a law change that was done last year to deal with the excrutiating time
lapse involved in the marriage visa process. Excerpted...in other words..straight to
the good part:
"(a) IN GENERAL- Section 101(a)(15)(K) of the Immigration and Nationality
Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(K)) is amended to read as follows:
`(K) subject to subsections (d) and (p) of section 214, an alien who--
`(i) is the fiancee or fiance of a citizen of the United States and who
seeks to enter the United States solely to conclude a valid marriage
with the petitioner within ninety days after admission;
`(ii) has concluded a valid marriage with a citizen of the United States
who is the petitioner, is the beneficiary of a petition to accord a
status under section 201(b)(2)(A)(i) that was filed under section 204 by
the petitioner, and seeks to enter the United States to await the
approval of such petition and the availability to the alien of an
immigrant visa; or"
My attorney told me about this when we were discussing options. You might want to use
the services of a lawyer to at least advise you as to what your options are.
Help wrote:
> Hi all
>
> We wish to have are wedding within hot sunny Jamaica but we have a questions
> for you all
>
> I an English citizen wishing to marry a US citizen
>
> 1) I wish to enter the usa after getting married, can this be done while the filing
> is being processed
> 2) Should the filling started be before or after we get married
> 3) Is there nay issues that we should be aware of for getting married in JA
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Mar 28th 2002, 2:35 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
K3 if married K1 is a fiance visa K2 is a child of a fiance visa holder K4 is a child
of a K3 visa holder
Barbara wrote:
>
> You can get a K if you are already married..though after reading the law I am not
> sure whether it would be a k3 or k1.
of a K3 visa holder
Barbara wrote:
>
> You can get a K if you are already married..though after reading the law I am not
> sure whether it would be a k3 or k1.
Mar 28th 2002, 2:35 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
A little more on my last post...after rereading the law and deciding it is not meant
for mere mortals to understand. A visit to a lawyer might be a good idea, if only
just to translate this paragraph:
(2) In the case of an alien seeking admission under section
2(a)(1)(A)(i) who concluded a marriage with a citizen of the United States outside
the United States, the alien shall be considered inadmissible under
section 212(a)(7)(B) if the alien is not at the time of application for
admission in possession of a valid nonimmigrant visa issued by a
consular officer in the foreign state in which the marriage was
concluded. ....whatever that means..... My interpretation (not a
lawyer, and semifluent in legalese) is that it can be gotten, but you
really need to be careful to do it right...did I mention that you might
want to ask an attorney?
Barbara wrote:
> You can get a K if you are already married..though after reading the law I am not
> sure whether it would be a k3 or k1. check out this site:
> http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/lawsregs/LIFEAct.htm
>
> It details a law change that was done last year to deal with the excrutiating time
> lapse involved in the marriage visa process. Excerpted...in other words..straight
> to the good part:
for mere mortals to understand. A visit to a lawyer might be a good idea, if only
just to translate this paragraph:
(2) In the case of an alien seeking admission under section
2(a)(1)(A)(i) who concluded a marriage with a citizen of the United States outside
the United States, the alien shall be considered inadmissible under
section 212(a)(7)(B) if the alien is not at the time of application for
admission in possession of a valid nonimmigrant visa issued by a
consular officer in the foreign state in which the marriage was
concluded. ....whatever that means..... My interpretation (not a
lawyer, and semifluent in legalese) is that it can be gotten, but you
really need to be careful to do it right...did I mention that you might
want to ask an attorney?
Barbara wrote:
> You can get a K if you are already married..though after reading the law I am not
> sure whether it would be a k3 or k1. check out this site:
> http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/lawsregs/LIFEAct.htm
>
> It details a law change that was done last year to deal with the excrutiating time
> lapse involved in the marriage visa process. Excerpted...in other words..straight
> to the good part:
Mar 28th 2002, 2:35 pm
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
Cost of RT airfare from Heathrow to Montego Bay: US $498 Daily per person tariff at
Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having a
clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've got
to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
"Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Michael Voight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from.
> > Where did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the
> > I-130, why would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F
> > for the K-3?
>
>
> Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again. Only
> the Grinch knows more than you"
>
>
> "The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
> 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the
nonimmigrant
> K visa as a spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued from
> the same foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage occurred
> outside of the United States. This rule provides an exception when the United
> States does not have a visa issuing post in that state. "
>
> I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
>
> Grinch
Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having a
clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've got
to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
"Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Michael Voight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from.
> > Where did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the
> > I-130, why would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F
> > for the K-3?
>
>
> Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again. Only
> the Grinch knows more than you"
>
>
> "The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
> 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the
nonimmigrant
> K visa as a spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued from
> the same foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage occurred
> outside of the United States. This rule provides an exception when the United
> States does not have a visa issuing post in that state. "
>
> I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
>
> Grinch
Mar 28th 2002, 4:24 pm
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
Thanks to everybody who has contributed to this topic ,so at a guess it will not be a good idea to get married outside the USA
it would make matters worse for the paper work.
If you have any more suggestions please throw them in, as it would be much appreciated.
it would make matters worse for the paper work.
If you have any more suggestions please throw them in, as it would be much appreciated.
Mar 28th 2002, 5:05 pm
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
Excellent!!!!!!! Please notice the bane of your life ABS the telephone part of
Adelphia filed chapter 11 yesterday!!
Paul
paulgani <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Cost of RT airfare from Heathrow to Montego Bay: US $498 Daily per person tariff at
> Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having
> a clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've
> got to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
>
> Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
>
> References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
> http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
Adelphia filed chapter 11 yesterday!!
Paul
paulgani <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Cost of RT airfare from Heathrow to Montego Bay: US $498 Daily per person tariff at
> Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having
> a clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've
> got to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
>
> Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
>
> References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
> http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
Mar 28th 2002, 7:05 pm
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
No sh*t! Well, that makes all three of my company's local telephone providers
officially under bankruptcy protection. So much for designing redundancy. Boy, can I
pick them or what? Heh heh, and I thought they weren't returning my calls yesterday
for the "usual" reasons!
Paulgani
"Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Excellent!!!!!!! Please notice the bane of your life ABS the telephone part of
> Adelphia
filed
> chapter 11 yesterday!!
>
> Paul
officially under bankruptcy protection. So much for designing redundancy. Boy, can I
pick them or what? Heh heh, and I thought they weren't returning my calls yesterday
for the "usual" reasons!
Paulgani
"Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Excellent!!!!!!! Please notice the bane of your life ABS the telephone part of
> Adelphia
filed
> chapter 11 yesterday!!
>
> Paul
Mar 29th 2002, 9:26 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
Wow, thanks otter, it sounded too stupid to be true. Why in the world do they care
where the marriage takes plac?. What idiots made this law??... Oh wait... The goal
was to aid one specific country, Mexico, not everyone... So, if your spouse is in
Iraq, then you can get a K-3 if you married in Jamaica, but if you are getting the
visa in the UK, the marriage must take place in the UK.... But, if you married in the
US, you can get the K-3, no matter where you live.... LOL
paulgani wrote:
> Cost of RT airfare from Heathrow to Montego Bay: US $498 Daily per person tariff at
> Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having
> a clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've
> got to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
>
> Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
>
> References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
> http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
>
> "Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Michael Voight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from.
> > > Where did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the
> > > I-130, why would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F
> > > for the K-3?
> >
> >
> > Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again.
> > Only the Grinch knows more than you"
> >
> >
> > "The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
> > 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the
> nonimmigrant
> > K visa as a spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued
> > from the same foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage
> > occurred outside of the United States. This rule provides an exception when the
> > United States does not have a visa issuing post in that state. "
> >
> > I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
> >
> > Grinch
> >
where the marriage takes plac?. What idiots made this law??... Oh wait... The goal
was to aid one specific country, Mexico, not everyone... So, if your spouse is in
Iraq, then you can get a K-3 if you married in Jamaica, but if you are getting the
visa in the UK, the marriage must take place in the UK.... But, if you married in the
US, you can get the K-3, no matter where you live.... LOL
paulgani wrote:
> Cost of RT airfare from Heathrow to Montego Bay: US $498 Daily per person tariff at
> Hedonism II resort: $235 Jerk chicken from Delroy at the nude bar: included Having
> a clue about immigration law so you don't find yourself separated from your "I've
> got to be nekkid" spouse for a year: Priceless!
>
> Paulgani appropriate credits to Mastercard Inc.
>
> References: http://www.dennyp.com/HIITripReports...ripReports.htm
> http://www.ins.gov/graphics/howdoi/hdiknonimm.htm
>
> "Grinch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Michael Voight" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > The K-3 does NOT require you get married in the country you are filing from.
> > > Where did you see this rule? As long as you are married and have filed the
> > > I-130, why would it matter where you married when you want to file the I-129F
> > > for the K-3?
> >
> >
> > Say "I am sorry Mr Gani for doubting you. I promise never to doubt you again.
> > Only the Grinch knows more than you"
> >
> >
> > "The new section 214(p)(2) of the Act requires the alien described in section
> > 101(a)(15)(K)(ii) of the Act to be in possession of the
> nonimmigrant
> > K visa as a spouse at the time of admission, and that the visa must be issued
> > from the same foreign state in which the marriage occurred, if the marriage
> > occurred outside of the United States. This rule provides an exception when the
> > United States does not have a visa issuing post in that state. "
> >
> > I read this in page 42587 of the federal Register I will let you find the link.
> >
> > Grinch
> >
Mar 29th 2002, 9:26 am
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Re: Hot Sunny Ja
"paulgani" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No sh*t! Well, that makes all three of my company's local telephone providers
> officially under bankruptcy protection. So much for designing redundancy. Boy, can
> I pick them or what? Heh heh, and I thought they weren't returning my calls
> yesterday for the "usual" reasons!
>
> Paulgani
I meant to E Mail that.....
Oh well.
Grinch
news:[email protected]...
> No sh*t! Well, that makes all three of my company's local telephone providers
> officially under bankruptcy protection. So much for designing redundancy. Boy, can
> I pick them or what? Heh heh, and I thought they weren't returning my calls
> yesterday for the "usual" reasons!
>
> Paulgani
I meant to E Mail that.....
Oh well.
Grinch
