Healthcare hidden cost example
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Before Christmas my husband had a nuclear heart test. The procedure was done at our doctor's group practice surgery. It is a large practice and is now owned by Atlantic Healthcare...who own the local hospital (Morristown Memorial). When he went for his follow up appointment the cardiologist was attending to an emergency...so he saw the cardiologist's practice nurse.
In the mail this week was a bill for several hundred dollars for the latter appointment. It seems the nurse is not in network...so the insurance company refuse to pay for the appointment.![EEK!](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
In the mail this week was a bill for several hundred dollars for the latter appointment. It seems the nurse is not in network...so the insurance company refuse to pay for the appointment.
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The practice nurse may not be listed as in network but the center may be listed which means all who practice there are covered as in network. This happened to me when I used a doctor who practiced at Stanford hospital that wasn't listed but was covered as in network since the hospital was covered. Of course if the practice nurse is only a visiting nurse, then he/she would be out of network and your deductible starts again from $0 with a larger co-pay.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Jan 28th 2012 at 10:20 am. Reason: adding more quotes/replies
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Call the insurance company. They probably don't have her associated with that center according to their records and the bill came directly from her with no reference to the center. The first bill probably referenced the center.
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Hubby's been onto the practice...they are going to sort it out. If not they will lose our business.
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Depending on whether those other charges were made in 2011 or 2012, you may have a reset deductible for the 2012 year and be starting again from scratch. Hopefully some or all of them were charged in January which would prevent you from having to shell out another $3k deductible. (ETA unless your insurance will consider it all part of the same event in 2011 and not double charge you...not sure what the convention is there.) I'm glad he's recovering and was able to get the treatment in the first place!
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i also forget to mention - he has been 'loaned' a special chair contraption by the surgeon to help rehabilitate him. It has a special robotic arm that he has to strap the affected arm into. Then its programmed to slowly raise and lower the arm to a set amount of degrees. Hes supposed to sit in it for up to 6 hours a day. Each day it increases the angle a little so its improving the stretch and avoiding scars forming (apparently). He wasn't given any choice in the chair - the surgeon just arranged for it and it was delivered. So I expect we will get a nice little bill for the 'loan' at some point.
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One of the problems is that the Doctors don't know much about the cost of things.....My wife is a resident and she just tells people what they need doing or what tests need to be done, she doesn't even understand our own insurance let alone any of her patients!
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This and many other of the other replies is an exellent summation of what is wrong with the US system and the UK for that matter.
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the surgery was in January so its just this years deductible (although some of the MRI scans were in December so he had to pay a $150 deductible for those). We did try and get the surgery done in December when he was diagnosed because the health insurance policy we were on for 2011 was a lot more generous and our deductible would have been far far less. However the physio would have run into 2012 so we would have needed up paying for that anyway. At least this way we know what we owe for 2012 and we can see if there is any other surgery he needs in the next 11 months whilst the deductible is fully met.
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