Very interesting article thanks for sharing

I hold two citizenships both of which I was born with German and US. I'm not giving up either. So take that !!!

Article is interesting, but odd in one regard. It singles out US/Israeli dual citizenship as a dealbreaker, a reason dual citizenship couldn’t be banned because Israel is such a close ally, and there are SO MANY in that status. Really? There are probably many countries with more US dual citizenship than Israel. (Canada? Mexico?) I just don’t see Israel as a special case in this regard.

https://www.newsweek.com/melania-tru...-bill-11147641

I think it's a good example because of automatic Israeli citizenship granted to individuals who are Jewish, their descendants (children, grandchildren), or their spouses under the the Law of Return. That means a lot of Jewish Americans either are or can very easily gain Israeli Citizenship, perhaps without choice.

Although dual nationality is normal and part of modern life, the reason a ban is unlikely to ever pass is that too many powerful and globally connected people, including people in politics and their families, would be directly affected. Melania Trump, who kept her Slovenian citizenship when she naturalised in the US, and Elon Musk, who holds South African, Canadian and US citizenship, are perfect examples.

If the USA removed citizenship from it's nationals living abroad (who have multi citizenships), they'll lose any possible tax revenue from those who still pay taxes.

I know that Brits use this word "national" often in their description of people of a nation. It is not a particularly used word in the American language. To a Brit what is the difference between being a citizen and being a national? I don 't know why but the use of national irks me because I don't know why it is used and what it means to British members of the forum.

Why would they remove citizenship from Americans living abroad? This was never discussed in the original bill.

I guess citizen and national mean the same thing - just a different way of expressing it. One thing that really irks me is the American use of the word "alien" to describe someone who isn't an American citizen. I had a green card for many years and I was described as a "resident alien". It's not like I came from outer space!!

Beats me? I don't use it, didn't use it when I lived in the UK, and don't recall hearing it used when I lived in the UK either.

FWIW my British passport says that I am a British citizen (citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Norther Ireland).

I don't know where the usage of "national" instead of citizen, came from in the UK, but my best guess is that it arose as a result of, or from the noise associated with, Brexit.

Oh, and hearing it used irks me too!

It says that because there are six types of British nationality, and British citizenship is one of them. Every British citizen is a British national, but not every British national is a citizen. For example, there are British nationals who hold British passports, such as British Nationals (Overseas), whose passports are not issued as British citizen passports. This distinction is legally significant.

https://www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality

It's also equally relevant/irrelevant to Americans. Though it is probably used interchangeably even though it is not the same thing. A Samoan is an example of an American national who is not a citizen.

Section 101(a) of the US Immigration & Nationality Act defines alien, nationality, and “National of the United States.” Curiously, citizen is not specifically defined other than by examples including a repetition of the 14th Amendment definition ( now under attack by Mr. Trump).

All US citizens are nationals of the United States. But as you note, natives of American Samoa (and Swains Island).

Shocking in a forum named 'British Expats'