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Old Apr 13th 2013, 6:08 pm
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I would like to get a British passport for my son (who is almost 8) basically just so that he has one. I registered him with the British Embassy in Washington DC when he was a newborn.
Do you know how I go about this - we are living in NJ and he has been living in NJ since been born here.

Also, how do I go about renewing my British passport that expired in 2008.

We both currently have US passports.

When we get them does it make sense to enter the UK on the British passports and then return to the US on the US passports?

Also, we are in the process of adopting a US Infant. How would this work in trying to pass on British citizenship to him or her?
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I would like to get a British passport for my son (who is almost 8) basically just so that he has one. I registered him with the British Embassy in Washington DC when he was a newborn.
Do you know how I go about this - we are living in NJ and he has been living in NJ since been born here.

Also, how do I go about renewing my British passport that expired in 2008.

We both currently have US passports.

When we get them does it make sense to enter the UK on the British passports and then return to the US on the US passports?

Also, we are in the process of adopting a US Infant. How would this work in trying to pass on British citizenship to him or her?
regarding the passport for your son I believe you can get a pre-completed form sent to you from applying online (UK passport application).
I need to do this for my son who was born in Uruguay. (He's 3).
Washington DC has the main passport application centre for you there. I got my parents in the UK to send me the form from London as I couldn't get it sent here.
Fill the form, with his birth certificate pay the fee (send it by mail) and that's about it. Think its pretty straight forward.
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Do you know how I go about this...
Start here: https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports.


Also, how do I go about renewing my British passport that expired in 2008.
Start here: https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports.


When we get them does it make sense to enter the UK on the British passports and then return to the US on the US passports?
Yes.


How would this work in trying to pass on British citizenship to him or her?
I don't believe you can pass citizenship to an adopted child... but I could be mistaken.

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This isn't a immigration question, so I moved it to the US forum, where if you have a look, you'll find loads of recent passport questions answering your questions.

There aren't quite as many on adoption though, but there are a few that you can find, one from a few weeks ago I think regarding a Russian adoption I think? Either way, there was quite a lot of info on in from a couple of posters.
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I would like to get a British passport for my son (who is almost 8) basically just so that he has one. I registered him with the British Embassy in Washington DC when he was a newborn.
Do you know how I go about this - we are living in NJ and he has been living in NJ since been born here.
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...applying/child

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Also, how do I go about renewing my British passport that expired in 2008.
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...wing_new/adult

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We both currently have US passports.

When we get them does it make sense to enter the UK on the British passports and then return to the US on the US passports?
US citizens must use a US passport to leave/enter the US. The UK does not place the same restrictions on its citizens so if you are visiting the UK, you can do so using your US passports (as I and other members of my family have done multiple times). I therefore question the need to obtain a UK passport for your son. It will only be valid for 5 years and realistically how often will he need it before it expires given that you can visit the UK on US passports anyway? You have already documented your son's UK citizenship via consular birth registration so a passport isn't really needed for that purpose either now. By the way, if you didn't get a consular birth cert for your son, you can obtain a much cheaper birth cert for him through the GPO in the UK.

If you intend to return to the UK to live, then things will go much smoother on UK passports - although even then it's possible to repatriate on a foreign passport as long as you can prove your UK citizenship on entry (as I did with my Canadian born children at one time).

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Also, we are in the process of adopting a US Infant. How would this work in trying to pass on British citizenship to him or her?
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...adoptedabroad/
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https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...applying/child



https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...wing_new/adult



US citizens must use a US passport to leave/enter the US. The UK does not place the same restrictions on its citizens so if you are visiting the UK, you can do so using your US passports (as I and other members of my family have done multiple times). I therefore question the need to obtain a UK passport for your son. It will only be valid for 5 years and realistically how often will he need it before it expires given that you can visit the UK on US passports anyway? You have already documented your son's UK citizenship via consular birth registration so a passport isn't really needed for that purpose either now. By the way, if you didn't get a consular birth cert for your son, you can obtain a much cheaper birth cert for him through the GPO in the UK.

If you intend to return to the UK to live, then things will go much smoother on UK passports - although even then it's possible to repatriate on a foreign passport as long as you can prove your UK citizenship on entry (as I did with my Canadian born children at one time).



http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...adoptedabroad/
Maryland Ned how do I go about getting the birth certificate through the consular and the GPO? - I did not realize I could do either??
I think my thinking behind the UK passport was a couple of reasons - It is always in the back of my mind of one day returning to live in the UK. Also, someone said to me (and not sure how accurate this is) that if you have a UK passport and needed to go to the doctors/hospital in England then you have the UK passport as back up.
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Maryland Ned how do I go about getting the birth certificate through the consular and the GPO? - I did not realize I could do either??
I think my thinking behind the UK passport was a couple of reasons - It is always in the back of my mind of one day returning to live in the UK. Also, someone said to me (and not sure how accurate this is) that if you have a UK passport and needed to go to the doctors/hospital in England then you have the UK passport as back up.
Duh - I just realized I have the stamped certified Birth Certificate that the British Embassy sent me. BUT how would I go about getting a GPO birth certificate?
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Duh - I just realized I have the stamped certified Birth Certificate that the British Embassy sent me. BUT how would I go about getting a GPO birth certificate?
Oops I meant GRO (not GPO)

https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-...ge-certificate
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Also, someone said to me (and not sure how accurate this is) that if you have a UK passport and needed to go to the doctors/hospital in England then you have the UK passport as back up.
You need to be resident of the UK for NHS treatment, unless it's an emergency.

The passport you hold doesn't count for anything.
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You need to be resident of the UK for NHS treatment, unless it's an emergency.

The passport you hold doesn't count for anything.
Neither of those statements are true. All can be treated...but some treatments have to be paid for in some cases. Read this:

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...-services.aspx
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Neither of those statements are true. All can be treated...but some treatments have to be paid for in some cases. Read this:

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...-services.aspx
Ok, what's wrong with the passport is irrelevant?

First bit I could have been clearer in that you just need to be a UK resident to be entitled to receive free NHS treatment, other wise only emergency care will be covered free.
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Ok, what's wrong with the passport is irrelevant?

First bit I could have been clearer in that you just need to be a UK resident to be entitled to receive free NHS treatment, other wise only emergency care will be covered free.
Did you read the link?

"Some people who are not ordinary residents in the UK are still entitled to at least some hospital treatment free of charge. These include those working for UK-based employers and students on courses of at least six months in duration. UK state pensioners living overseas, and those visiting from countries that have a reciprocal healthcare agreement with the UK, are also entitled to free hospital treatment, but not pre-planned treatment or treatment that can await their return home. For more information see the exemption categories listed below."
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So, someone working in the UK or a student is a resident of the UK, that's not the same as being permanent resident, but they're still resident, not a tourist.

Johnny EU tourist is completely irrelevant to this because the OP is coming from the US, where again, the passport is immaterial
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...applying/child



https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passport...wing_new/adult



US citizens must use a US passport to leave/enter the US. The UK does not place the same restrictions on its citizens so if you are visiting the UK, you can do so using your US passports (as I and other members of my family have done multiple times). I therefore question the need to obtain a UK passport for your son. It will only be valid for 5 years and realistically how often will he need it before it expires given that you can visit the UK on US passports anyway? You have already documented your son's UK citizenship via consular birth registration so a passport isn't really needed for that purpose either now. By the way, if you didn't get a consular birth cert for your son, you can obtain a much cheaper birth cert for him through the GPO in the UK.

If you intend to return to the UK to live, then things will go much smoother on UK passports - although even then it's possible to repatriate on a foreign passport as long as you can prove your UK citizenship on entry (as I did with my Canadian born children at one time).



http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/br...adoptedabroad/

The website is stating that it has moved. I came up with this website. Still not sure if I can register an overseas (United States) adoption. I have been living in the US since 1991.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ldren-register
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Duh - I just realized I have the stamped certified Birth Certificate that the British Embassy sent me. BUT how would I go about getting a GPO birth certificate?
If you have the consular birth certificate issued when you registered your son, there's no need to order a new copy from the GRO as it will simply be another copy from the register.
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