uk_grenada

Just a note of caution, you do realise that UK legislation against high-capacity petrol and diesel cars means that you will be paying a fortune into the future to run it. UK and the EU are both agreed that there will be no more petrol car manufacture after about another 10 years, and the cost of fuel and tax situation is only going to get worse. The infrastructure and property issues associated with that are both strange and interesting. For example it is it is expected that almost all petrol stations will eventually close and a huge electrical infrastructure will be built up over time for charging. Have you worked out how much is it how much it's going to cost you to feed it. Local councils go for every opportunity to tax people that they can and large cars are an easy target, for example in Richmond in London you will pay double to park your car because you have a high carbon emissions vehicle, and in most of London you are likely to pay more for a residence parking permit for the same reason. In addition there appears to be a good chance that you will be banned from major cities within the next couple of years. Transport is responsible for a large tax income for the government, what's going to happen when almost all cars are electrical, clearly they are going to be highly taxed and if they can get away with taxing them highly well what about big petrol cars, Will the owners be hung drawn and quartered from every street light by the nation of eco-warriors .

captainbligh

People have been saying that since the 70's, nothings going to change, do you think gov would let BP/Shell etc go out of business, never. Crude oil based fuels will be used in cars and other machinery until they are nearly extinct. There is actually an abundance of that type of fuel and new sources are always found, the problem lies in pollution of which that's why the MOT exists.

uk_grenada

I don't think the head in the sand attitude is actually going to work for very much longer, changes in London to residents parking permit's is happening right now, several cities are looking at low or even zero carbon emissions zones, and I understand that most of the Oil companies are looking hard at their real estate with a view to losing as many petrol stations as they can while the land prices remain high [ because the market hasn't really noticed yet.]

Remember part of this isn't about the government eco-credentials it's partially sensible protection. It's part of the move to try to isolate us from The middle eastern and Russian oil market which actually isn't a bad thing. Americans have been isolated for ever by their own production but this doesn't really help us.

What do you think happens in 25 years from now if we managed to make fusion reactors work, this effectively means electrical energy will be free at source, although of course you have to have a network, even without solar et cetera et cetera.

captainbligh

Probably not the right place to discuss this but anything that reduces energy costs will reach a maximum saving cost until the commercialisation/capitalisation aspect kicks in. Meaning there will never be any endeavor run by any corporation with the intention of reducing energy costs to the extent of absolutely cheap or nearly free energy, BECAUSE companies spend billions running these industries and employing engineers/lawyers, doing R&D, etc therefore money will always be the number one basis and core motivation of all commercial endeavors, including energy production.

The green/clean energy thing will keep on gaining popularity and then plateau when goodwill compromises profit . Inevitably methods of clean energy production will become almost self sustaining in comparison to crude oil, e.g. wind turbines/solar and these are also ways to make more profits, with the by product being clean energy. I'll give you an example, one farmer in the UK made £360k per year from one wind turbine on his farm, so in essence if an energy company manages to have thousands of turbines they basically make almost zero input money once the turbine pays for itself. And solar panels have 35 year lifespans and are now way cheaper to produce. In terms of cars, the batteries and disposal of them is going to be a huge problem if every car ends up using batteries, until someone finds a way to turn old waste batteries into some cleanly disposable chemical composition.

Take Elon Musk for example, with his solar business, all for profit, regardless of what any marketing people say. The same goes for his electric cars, he could not compete with Audi/BMW/Merc/Honda/Toyota/Jaguar/Ford/FCA/GM etc in terms of engineering excellence of mechanical engines therefore he did the smartest thing by separating himself from the competition through creating non-mechanical cars, i.e. cars that run on batteries and have no engine as we know it. Therefore creating a product and market where he would lead, the by-product was a noble one, zero-emissions. But it's all money-motivated.

London is a major city where 1 in 5 people in the UK are packed in a tiny, tiny spec of land therefore zero emissions polices make sense there, plus as a world major city the city obviously wants to win accolades for zero emissions by beating other cities such as Berlin, Paris, NYC, etc, point is, it's always about the money.

uk_grenada

Doesn't really work I'm afraid, the endeavour to produce fusion energy is paid for by governments and of course educational establishments universities et cetera who have a different agenda, governments can of course tax you on whatever basis they want.

Actually they produce the energy, simply subcontracting to whoever meets the criteria and cost profile.

So yes you will always pay for energy, One way or another but you will pay for the most efficient form of energy if you want to Pay less.

Nutek

captainbligh

I will have to read more about fusion energy but fail to see why Elon Musk's Tesla hasn't achieved this yet if they are smart enough to do SpaceX but then again launching things into space is now pretty straightforward in 2017 .

Ok enough discussions about energy. Let's not discuss emissions and energy anymore. You're sidetracking the thread

ottotheboar

The title will need to be stamped " Export Approved " by US Customs, get this done before the car is dropped off at the docks as if you miss the sailing due this not being done you can be charged storage fees.
Given the age of the car not much modification will be needed in the UK for the MOT.
You will need a NOVA certificate to show any duties have been paid. There is a simple form to fill in and send to the Car Team in Manchester.
With the title, MOT, NOVA certificate, proof of insurance and a check send it to the DVLA marked " First Registration Department " they will issue an age related registration.
It is very simple we have done it dozens of times.