ian-mstm

It never ceases to amaze me how people can take a single, specific incident and try to turn it into something that it clearly isn't.

Ian

Ja5on

Sorry I forgot to mention that this is all in theory.....

fromthemanorborn

Yeah, you don't even have a brother do you?

Ja5on

I do when Ians around!

Steve_

For 3 months? CBP are always suspicious when someone says they want to stay for the maximum amount of time they're permitted to stay, I'd make sure they have evidence of non-immigrant intent, i.e. proof of funds (bank statement for example) and proof of intent to leave (plane ticket to the UK for example) at a minimum. Also helpful to have proof they live in the UK e.g. deed, rent agreement, also proof employment in the UK.

Also be aware of the fact that CBP don't consider a departure to another location in North America (with the exception of some of the more distant Caribbean countries) to be leaving the US for the purposes of the VWP. I.e. they can't leave and come back and get more days.

Ja5on

They don't really "live" anywhere right now, they traveled across NZ Then Europe....So that was about 2 years for them, they are now traveling across Canada then after leaving the US they will be traveling to Asia for a year or so.....That's why I think it will be easier if they say they are just visiting for a few weeks....Like people have mentioned in the past, it's easy for plans to change and they are not planning on overstaying.

Since they travel so much they don't own/rent a house anywhere and they don't have any plane tickets currently booked.

BTJ

The UKC will also need $6US for the I-94W (just bills or credit card, the CBP officer didn't like the Sacagawea Dollar I had). Canadian will just be waived through (pretty much).

rpjs

Good grief. If even the US government won't take dollar coins, it's no wonder the mint has millions of them sitting around gathering dust.

Noorah101

So they don't have a residence abroad that they don't intend to abandon, and they don't have a return flight outside the USA. They will definitely need the return ticket showing when they intend to leave the USA in hand before trying to cross the border. It would help if they have a residence abroad that they must return to...but if they don't, they don't.

They should NEVER lie to an Immigration Officer.

Rene

Ja5on

Return ticket where? They will be driving into the US....

lisa67

I would imagine that they will need to show a ticket to prove that they will be actually leaving the US. Where do they plan on going after their visit?

BTJ

And is in fact illegal for the US government not to accept them - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender#United_States

Although I wonder since I encountered the CBP officer at the pre-clearance at Vancouver Pacific Central Station whether US laws apply?

Ja5on

Probably Asia....Maybe back to Canada....What I mean is that he has a working visa to Canada right now and his gf is from Canada.....Do people really need to show airline tickets if they are living in Canada and not citizens?

lisa67

No, not if they can honestly answer "where are you heading after your trip to the US" with "we're heading back to Canada"
Just think that if they answer "we haven't decided yet" or similar then it may raise some red flags.

Ja5on

Cool. Thanks. I will speak to them over the weekend about it all, they have both lived/worked/traveled in a lot of countries so they are used to dealing with this sort of thing. With how many stamps are in their passports its gonna be easy for the immigration officer to see that they aren't looking to settle down anywhere! That's assuming that the io has common sense......a pretty big assumption I guess!